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AB1527, Long Gun OC Hearing Only Days Away

Save Our State

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The bill is now in the Senate appropriations committee. They will likely issue an analysis just before the hearing date, which hasn't been set as of today. Writing this committee might be one of the last chances you have to affect the bill, short of when it hits the senate floor. The senate appropriations committee is:

Appropriations-(7)-Kehoe (Chair), Walters (Vice Chair), Al-
quist, Dutton, Lieu, Price and Steinberg. Phone: (916)651-4101.

California State Senate Appropriations Committee
State Capitol, Room 2206,
Sacramento, CA 95814-4900
 

Save Our State

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the bill is now in the senate appropriations committee. They will likely issue an analysis just before the hearing date, which hasn't been set as of today. Writing this committee might be one of the last chances you have to affect the bill, short of when it hits the senate floor. The senate appropriations committee is:

Appropriations-(7)-kehoe (chair), walters (vice chair), al-
quist, dutton, lieu, price and steinberg. Phone: (916)651-4101.

California state senate appropriations committee
state capitol, room 2206,
sacramento, ca 95814-4900


sen appropriations
hearing date : 08/06/2012
 

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Ted Lieu is actually a Chinese mole. His family was sent here when he was young with the mission of destroying America.

I used to live two blocks from him. He drives around in a $135,000 Mercedes and wears $7,000 suits.
 

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real estate prices in nevada, arizona and idaho are REALLY low right now.

Hello Ca Patriot,

Your post is pertinent to this thread. So many people believe that they can negotiate with, by using rational discourse, and change a Democrats objective--namely, to collectivise our state.

On another forum which is pro-gun, many supporters of that forum lobby for police unions and democrats. How can a rational person believe that police unions and democrats give a rip about your civil liberties?

Moving from this state is a viable option.

Beating ones head against the wall will not make democrats rational. They own us.

I am on the five year plan myself. We already own one out-of-state house. One more to come.

The illegal vote has ruined the demographics of this state for good.

markm
 

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The illegal vote has ruined the demographics of this state for good.

In terms of gun laws, there is that, and then there is the fact that the vast majority of gun owners in the PRK, aside from the staunch activist community hardly understand, much less follow the extremely odd and hard to understand PRK gun laws, and as such don't wish to get involved with gun rights activism for fear of getting screwed with by the police.
 

Save Our State

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In terms of gun laws, there is that, and then there is the fact that the vast majority of gun owners in the PRK, aside from the staunch activist community hardly understand, much less follow the extremely odd and hard to understand PRK gun laws, and as such don't wish to get involved with gun rights activism for fear of getting screwed with by the police.

Unfortunately not that simple. Even where the police are NOT involved, most californian's aren't either. I'm always at government meetings, including the state house. No one's there. And, through records requests and such, you can get access to things like letters to the state from "the people". You never see an avalanche of letters to these entities anymore. People don't want to be involved in anything. that way, they don't have to blame anyone but the "guvamint" when thing invariably go wrong. I wish I could say it was just fear of the police, but even when that's far removed, they do nothing
 

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We're in agreement on that. I'm saying that the reason for that lack of involvement is that PRK subjects who have guns don't often take the laws seriously, and as such don't care about changing them, and if they do, they still don't want to be on the radar for getting caught breaking them, and accordingly stay home.

There is also the fact that daily life in the urban PRK is such a mess, and such a relentless grueling rat race, that few want to take that time out of their busy lives to try to make a difference.

It can definitely be broken down further, but I do believe that is the basic essence of it.
 

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We're in agreement on that. I'm saying that the reason for that lack of involvement is that PRK subjects who have guns don't often take the laws seriously, and as such don't care about changing them, and if they do, they still don't want to be on the radar for getting caught breaking them, and accordingly stay home.

There is also the fact that daily life in the urban PRK is such a mess, and such a relentless grueling rat race, that few want to take that time out of their busy lives to try to make a difference.

It can definitely be broken down further, but I do believe that is the basic essence of it.

You are somewhat correct on the issue of many not taking the laws seriously. Many carry guns illegally, possess banned weapons, and generally ignore the laws as if they didn't apply, or they think that because of their sheep-like stature, the guvamint will let them go because they weren't a gang member, and pay all their taxes. There's also the citizen nullification clause "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by six". Always amazes me how Californian's gamble like that. But then again, they voted for lottery, indian casinos, etc. I guess it's just in the general nature. They know the house wins too, and rather than tweaking the rules themselves, which they are allowed to do vis the legislature, they opt for the thrill of it all instead?
 

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Due to the CO shooting I am guessing its a lock that the CA long gun open carry bill passes.
 

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If you didn't believe it was a lock BEFORE the Aurora shooting, you math skills aren't very sharp.

One doesnt exclude the other. Unless you arent very sharp.

Dont be a hater just because I have a CCW and all the assault rifles and high caps I want :)
 
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Bear1991

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Hi

hey guys this will be my first post here on the forum and i just wanted to start by saying i appreciate the fact that there are people out there who will stand up for their 2nd amendment right and aren't just going to back down i am also glad to see these people are from Ca i thought for a while our state was nothing but air-headed long haired hippies i appreciate the fact that i can come here as a source of information (the value of which im sure i will find out once i explore the site a bit more) but you all have my sincere thanks keep fighting the good fight
 

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I have always wanted to visit the national forest in Ca., but the closest I have been is Arizona. I felt so American and free in Az., I couldnt dare step foot in California.
 

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We have plenty of National Forests in NV! Carry on! We also have Great Basin National Park with some fantastic hikes and views. Most of NV is high elevation and forested, hence our name.
 

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We have plenty of National Forests in NV! Carry on! We also have Great Basin National Park with some fantastic hikes and views. Most of NV is high elevation and forested, hence our name.

LOL MAC, but I still aint got enough of Arizona yet...:lol:
 

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Just to remind everyone, the next committee meeting for portantino's long gun carry ban is on June 26th at the state capitol. This is a chance to stop the bill before it gets to the senate floor. As I mentioned before, I'll be at the meeting. If you have ideas to present, and cannot make the hearing, you can offer them here too, and I might work it in

Should be able to provide written argument for the committee (if you cannot make it) .. contact your state leg ... should always to this since they can change the time for the open meeting..
 
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