comonsense
Regular Member
First I am new here and this is sort of a opinion/editorial post that I would like the community to weigh in on.
With ccw it is hard to panic the public if they can't see a weapon to be panicked about.
With oc, yes it is your right to carry, but if you carry and someone sees it and freaks out and is legitimately scared for their safety and call 911 (beavercreek Walmart) someone can and have been shot over it.
Now officers responding to a 911 call of a open carried weapon and a scared populace calling the police I can see more of these incidents occurring.
In today's climate I usually have to side with law enforcement on a couple of points.
As being in public safety myself (not leo) first issue and first thing we are taught is scene safety. I can state from a responder standpoint showing up for a call for a man down with no other information on the call and seeing someone on that scene with a open carry firearm I do not know if that person with the oc is the reason that the victim is down (ie: the oc person may have shot him). In that sense I would post up and stage until leo has secured the scene and has safely controlled that firearm.
Now some will disagree but I am not taking any chances with my going home at the end of my shift and now departments that are more urban are starting to issue body armor which also leads to the thoughts in your brain "they are giving me a vest wth why?" Alot of times if there is a shooting the shooter or shooters will remain close by to make sure their target is dead and stays that way by firing at ems personnel.
So IMHO ccw is a better way to go and each person with a ccw has to meet certain conditions to carry that weapon and it is not out in the open to scare the general populace. If a weapon is oc I HAVE to assume for the safety of myself and my family your intentions are hostile, I can not take the chance you are just exercising your 2a rights.
Your thoughts are welcomed and again this isn't a debate topic per se on the right to carry but the perception of the public. Look at Colorado movie theater, Sandy hook, school shooting in padducha ky in the late 1990's, columbine and general news reporting and tv and movies that dominate popular culture.
We as a society can generally only move as fast as the slowest people (and the least intelligent) if we are to move forward at all.
With ccw it is hard to panic the public if they can't see a weapon to be panicked about.
With oc, yes it is your right to carry, but if you carry and someone sees it and freaks out and is legitimately scared for their safety and call 911 (beavercreek Walmart) someone can and have been shot over it.
Now officers responding to a 911 call of a open carried weapon and a scared populace calling the police I can see more of these incidents occurring.
In today's climate I usually have to side with law enforcement on a couple of points.
As being in public safety myself (not leo) first issue and first thing we are taught is scene safety. I can state from a responder standpoint showing up for a call for a man down with no other information on the call and seeing someone on that scene with a open carry firearm I do not know if that person with the oc is the reason that the victim is down (ie: the oc person may have shot him). In that sense I would post up and stage until leo has secured the scene and has safely controlled that firearm.
Now some will disagree but I am not taking any chances with my going home at the end of my shift and now departments that are more urban are starting to issue body armor which also leads to the thoughts in your brain "they are giving me a vest wth why?" Alot of times if there is a shooting the shooter or shooters will remain close by to make sure their target is dead and stays that way by firing at ems personnel.
So IMHO ccw is a better way to go and each person with a ccw has to meet certain conditions to carry that weapon and it is not out in the open to scare the general populace. If a weapon is oc I HAVE to assume for the safety of myself and my family your intentions are hostile, I can not take the chance you are just exercising your 2a rights.
Your thoughts are welcomed and again this isn't a debate topic per se on the right to carry but the perception of the public. Look at Colorado movie theater, Sandy hook, school shooting in padducha ky in the late 1990's, columbine and general news reporting and tv and movies that dominate popular culture.
We as a society can generally only move as fast as the slowest people (and the least intelligent) if we are to move forward at all.