Hampton Roads - OC reports

Smitty757 · Jun 11, 2012

New OC'er in Va Beach

Hey everyone, the name is Rob and I'm brand new to OC'ing. In fact I don't start until I pick up my Springfield XD .40 2morow. Any advice for a new guy? Any places that are against firearms?

Grapeshot · Jun 11, 2012

Smitty757 said:
Hey everyone, the name is Rob and I'm brand new to OC'ing. In fact I don't start until I pick up my Springfield XD .40 2morow. Any advice for a new guy? Any places that are against firearms?

Welcome to OCDO Smitty757 - very active OC people in and around Tidewater/Hampton Roads.

1st suggestion - put at least 2-300 rounds down range on your new XD to insure that it has no hics or cups in it.

By and large most businesses are becoming acclimated and accepting of OCers. Look for signs posted and if asked to leave do so politely - follow through after the fact as you will.

Some of your neighbors will likely chime in shortly. Meet up with them when you get a chance. Consider joining VCDL - at least sign up for the free Va-Alerts.

45acpForMe · Jun 11, 2012

Smitty757 said:
Hey everyone, the name is Rob and I'm brand new to OC'ing. In fact I don't start until I pick up my Springfield XD .40 2morow. Any advice for a new guy? Any places that are against firearms?

http://www.vaguninfo.com/ has some good info. Send a double self addressed stamped envelope to Ed and get some OC info Cards.

Places Where Carrying Concealed is Prohibited

NOTE: In most locations where concealed carry (CC) is prohibited, open carry (OC) is also prohibited.

- Federal facilities (buildings) (18USC § 930)

- Many federal agency lands (various federal regs, e.g., USPS, but not National Parks)

- National Forests: OC prohibited except where hunting is allowed (4VAC15-40-60)

- General Assembly Buildings except for CHP holders (Joint Rules Committee Rule)

now ok - State Parks: OC prohibited except where hunting is allowed (4VAC5-30-200)

now ok - State Forests (4VAC10-30-170) legal use allowed.

- Hog Island Wildlife Management Area (4VAC15-40-120)

- Virginia Commonwealth University (8VAC90-10-50)

- George Mason University buildings (8VAC35-60-20)

- Courthouses (§18.2-283.1)

- Detention Facilities (§15.2-915)

- K-12 school grounds (CHP holders exempted for CC while in a vehicle; handgun secured in a container or compartment in a vehicle also exempted.) (§18.2-308.1)

- K-12 school buses. (§18.2-308.1)

- Property used exclusively for K-12 school-sponsored functions (§18.2-308.1)

- Air carrier airport terminal buildings (§18.2-287.01)

- Places of worship while a meeting for religious purposes is being held "without good and sufficient reason" (§18.2-283)
self defense is a valid reason according to the attorney General.

- CC on private property when prohibited by owner (§18.2-308.0)

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...pen-Carry-Flyers-amp-Information-Cards-STICKY

Welcome and enjoy OC-ing just read up on the laws and understand them as well as your rights.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/virginia.pdf

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/virginia.aspx

Tanner · Jun 11, 2012

45acpForMe said:
http://www.vaguninfo.com/ has some good info. Send a double self addressed stamped envelope to Ed and get some OC info Cards.

Places Where Carrying Concealed is Prohibited
NOTE: In most locations where concealed carry (CC) is prohibited, open carry (OC) is also prohibited.
- Federal facilities (buildings) (18USC § 930)
- Many federal agency lands (various federal regs, e.g., USPS, but not National Parks)
- National Forests: OC prohibited except where hunting is allowed (4VAC15-40-60)
- General Assembly Buildings except for CHP holders (Joint Rules Committee Rule)
- State Parks: OC prohibited except where hunting is allowed (4VAC5-30-200)
- State Forests (4VAC10-30-170) legal use allowed.
- Hog Island Wildlife Management Area (4VAC15-40-120)
- Virginia Commonwealth University (8VAC90-10-50)
- George Mason University buildings (8VAC35-60-20)
- Courthouses (§18.2-283.1)
- Detention Facilities (§15.2-915)
- K-12 school grounds (CHP holders exempted for CC while in a vehicle; handgun secured in a container or compartment in a vehicle also exempted.) (§18.2-308.1)
- K-12 school buses. (§18.2-308.1)
- Property used exclusively for K-12 school-sponsored functions (§18.2-308.1)
- Air carrier airport terminal buildings (§18.2-287.01)
- Places of worship while a meeting for religious purposes is being held "without good and sufficient reason" (§18.2-283)
- CC on private property when prohibited by owner (§18.2-308.0)

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...pen-Carry-Flyers-amp-Information-Cards-STICKY

Welcome and enjoy OC-ing just read up on the laws and understand them as well as your rights.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/virginia.pdf

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/virginia.aspx

I do belive that this has changed. That or me and 50+ other people broke the law about a week ago. It was a VCDL event

WOW i posted this litterally as you were fixing it HA.

45acpForMe · Jun 11, 2012

Tanner said:
I do belive that this has changed. That or me and 50+ other people broke the law about a week ago. It was a VCDL event

WOW i posted this litterally as you were fixing it HA.

Yes I cut and pasted it then went back to read it and the two I marked were overturned. If you click on the link for that law it takes you to the site that says it has been repealed or changed to not apply to firearms.

There should be a sticky with a CURRENT list updated only by an administrator. I tried to read Ed's card back but my eyes are now too weak to read the small print. I searched for my cereal box magnafying glass but couldn't find it! :-(

Ed usually updated his card to reflect the new July 1 changes. Hopefully we can make the list small enough to use a readable font.

Grapeshot · Jun 11, 2012

The new, revised VCDL information card should be available soon, resplendent in a new color.

By space limitations (there are sooo many small changes i.e. universities) some of the notations will be links to VCDL's site.

Grapeshot · Jun 11, 2012

Tanner said:
I do belive that this has changed. That or me and 50+ other people broke the law about a week ago. It was a VCDL event

WOW i posted this litterally as you were fixing it HA.

Actually, Governor Bob had issued an executive order over a year ago that directed that the "no guns in state parks" should not be prosecuted. We actually had a picnic there last year not 100 yds away.

We were celebrating the official GA endorsed change in the statute law.

More than a year in the making, the state code is being changed after Gov. Bob McDonnell in January 2011 ordered the Department of Conservation and Recreation to stop enforcing the regulation banning guns from parks.
http://www2.vcdl.org/cgi-bin/wspd_cgi.sh/vcdl/vadetail.html?RECID=5959522&FILTER=

GreatDaneMan · Jun 12, 2012

OC'd to the polls this AM at moose lodge. Last time I got a few questions and a poll worker defended the 2A and educated his co-volunteers before I could open my mouth... lol. This time just a standard welcome and thank you. In and out.

Also. My friends new Deli is 2a friendly (Owned by Jersey Natives too!). He had his taste test day today for friends and family. Opens friday with the grand opening in a few weeks.

The name I will keep silent for now but I will be calling the next Hampton Roads dinner in a week or so. The word on the subject is "All are welcome".
This place does not wait tables as restricted by lease... (Pretty screwed up). No tips allowed, but wouldnt you know it, they are setting up donation jars for our Great Dane Rescue group!

Let me just tell you this, the food today was fantastic, as is the atmosphere and service.

The Airframer · Jun 13, 2012

OC'd at the Golden Corral on Independence, Dick's and Walmart on Lynnhaven to find the better deal on a Nikon Prostaff. No issues, ran into a gentleman pricing ammo and said he had just got him a new 9mm and asked me about my OC. He said he wasn't familiar with the laws and i referred him to OCDO to learn the ropes. I wish I could get my hands on some OCDO cards to hand out...

Grapeshot · Jun 13, 2012

The Airframer said:
OC'd at the Golden Corral on Independence, Dick's and Walmart on Lynnhaven to find the better deal on a Nikon Prostaff. No issues, ran into a gentleman pricing ammo and said he had just got him a new 9mm and asked me about my OC. He said he wasn't familiar with the laws and i referred him to OCDO to learn the ropes. I wish I could get my hands on some OCDO cards to hand out...

VCDL's carry cards are in the process of being revised then reprinted.

The Airframer · Jun 13, 2012

Grapeshot said:
VCDL's carry cards are in the process of being revised then reprinted.

Right on! I look forward to getting my hands on some, may even take the layout and get some printed out on business cards to handout.

Grapeshot · Jun 13, 2012

The Airframer said:
Right on! I look forward to getting my hands on some, may even take the layout and get some printed out on business cards to handout.

Too much to cover on standard size business card. VCDL's card is twice that size, but folds nicely in half - problem solved.

Taylor95482 · Jun 13, 2012

Hey everyone, first time poster here, been lurking for a few days. My name's Taylor, I'm active duty AF and from Northern California. I decided to wait to post until I OC'd for the first time. I live in Hampton and I've had a CCW for a few weeks now, but decided to explore the option to open carry. Today was my first day open carrying in public. I spent several hours out in town, carrying my Glock 19 in a Blackhawk Serpa retention holster on my strong side. I went to A&P Arms, Walmart and Farm Fresh. I did not get stopped by any LEOs, but I did have three comments on my firearm. The first two were at Farm Fresh, first a man who put his hands up and said "don't shoot me" and then asked me for bus money to Norfolk. The second was a young cashier who sidled up to me and asked me, "Do you have a license for that?". I replied that a license is not required to open carry a firearm in Virginia provided you're legally allowed to posses one. The third guy was at Wal Mart, he asked me "What is that young man?", and I replied "This is a Glock 19." He was curious to how I was "allowed to do that" (open carry), and I told him the same thing I told the Farm Fresh clerk. He seemed surprised and carried on. All in all a very positive experience for my first time OCing, to be honest I was VERY nervous for a while but quickly calmed down after nothing bad happened. Looking forward to doing it again with my "weapon of choice", so to speak, which is a Glock 20.

45acpForMe · Jun 13, 2012

Taylor95482 said:
Hey everyone, first time poster here, been lurking for a few days. My name's Taylor, I'm active duty AF and from Northern California. I decided to wait to post until I OC'd for the first time. I live in Hampton and I've had a CCW for a few weeks now, but decided to explore the option to open carry. Today was my first day open carrying in public. I spent several hours out in town, carrying my Glock 19 in a Blackhawk Serpa retention holster on my strong side. I went to A&P Arms, Walmart and Farm Fresh. I did not get stopped by any LEOs, but I did have three comments on my firearm. The first two were at Farm Fresh, first a man who put his hands up and said "don't shoot me" and then asked me for bus money to Norfolk. The second was a young cashier who sidled up to me and asked me, "Do you have a license for that?". I replied that a license is not required to open carry a firearm in Virginia provided you're legally allowed to posses one. The third guy was at Wal Mart, he asked me "What is that young man?", and I replied "This is a Glock 19." He was curious to how I was "allowed to do that" (open carry), and I told him the same thing I told the Farm Fresh clerk. He seemed surprised and carried on. All in all a very positive experience for my first time OCing, to be honest I was VERY nervous for a while but quickly calmed down after nothing bad happened. Looking forward to doing it again with my "weapon of choice", so to speak, which is a Glock 20.

Welcome! It is surprising you had that many people even notice that you were OC-ing the first time or even first week! Most people either don't notice or don't care.

Read up on the laws but VA's laws are much nicer than Kalifornistan!

I OC-ed to Plaza Azteca, Tysinger, some craft store that used to be Ben Franklins.

No issues.

mk4 · Jun 14, 2012

Taylor95482 said:
Hey everyone, first time poster here, been lurking for a few days. My name's Taylor, I'm active duty AF and from Northern California. I decided to wait to post until I OC'd for the first time. I live in Hampton and I've had a CCW for a few weeks now, but decided to explore the option to open carry. Today was my first day open carrying in public. I spent several hours out in town, carrying my Glock 19 in a Blackhawk Serpa retention holster on my strong side. I went to A&P Arms, Walmart and Farm Fresh. I did not get stopped by any LEOs, but I did have three comments on my firearm. The first two were at Farm Fresh, first a man who put his hands up and said "don't shoot me" and then asked me for bus money to Norfolk. The second was a young cashier who sidled up to me and asked me, "Do you have a license for that?". I replied that a license is not required to open carry a firearm in Virginia provided you're legally allowed to posses one. The third guy was at Wal Mart, he asked me "What is that young man?", and I replied "This is a Glock 19." He was curious to how I was "allowed to do that" (open carry), and I told him the same thing I told the Farm Fresh clerk. He seemed surprised and carried on. All in all a very positive experience for my first time OCing, to be honest I was VERY nervous for a while but quickly calmed down after nothing bad happened. Looking forward to doing it again with my "weapon of choice", so to speak, which is a Glock 20.

good job on your first oc outing.

re: the line i bolded... i *hate hate hate* when people do this! :banghead:

Taylor95482 · Jun 14, 2012

mk4 said:
good job on your first oc outing.

re: the line i bolded... i *hate hate hate* when people do this! :banghead:

I agree, it made me very uncomfortable for a second. If he had done that in front of the wrong person I could see it creating a huge issue. Thanks for the welcome, I did A LOT of research for the past 6 months on gun laws in Virginia. I wish California's weren't so terrible. I would probably move back and settle up North where I grew up one day, it's a beautiful state, but the I won't ever go back if the gun laws don't change.

WhatTimeIsIt? · Jun 14, 2012

mk4 said:
good job on your first oc outing.

re: the line i bolded... i *hate hate hate* when people do this! :banghead:

It still amazes me that people think it's ok to play that game.

USNA69 · Jun 14, 2012

Taylor95482 said:
... The first two were at Farm Fresh, first a man who put his hands up and said "don't shoot me" ...

WhatTimeIsIt? said:
It still amazes me that people think it's ok to play that game.

I have concluded that many people do not know how to behave as adults when in proximity to a firearm. It may well be the first one that they have ever seen "in person".

So, they revert to the same reaction they had, when they were children ... or have seen in films. The only way they know to acknowledge the presence of the firearm is to feign victimhood.

Infortunately, an observer might see this as a brandishing incident ... and it goes downhill from there.

MSC 45ACP · Jun 14, 2012

Grapeshot said:
R1 is a solid performer.

+P ammo in them is discussed here:
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=347731

Thank you Kind Sir, for the link.
Read the whole thing and agreed with several points. I just read it today.
I got the Wolff 18.5 LB Recoil Spring in the mail over the weekend (before even seeing this post) because I had the same thoughts about the +P ammo I bought when I got the gun.

I guess I need to catch up with the rest of this thread when I get back from shopping. Quartermaster closes in 30 min and I want to see if they have a mag pouch I like or should I wait to get one online...

MSC

Taylor95482 · Jun 14, 2012

OC'd again today to Superior Gun and Pawn in Hampton (looking for 10mm range ammunition, $41.00 for a box of 50 OUCH, guess I'll have to order in bulk

), Wal Mart again, and 7-11. Still no negative experiences, no comments or questions this time either. I had originally OC'd with the idea in mind that I wouldn't make it a habit and stick to CCW unless clothing made it irrelevant, but I think I may stick to it now because it has been going well, and frankly it is much more comfortable than having a gun inside of my waist band. I also really like the Blackhawk holster that I use, and I have much more faith in it than the El Cheapo IWB holster I have. Are there any events coming soon near the Hampton area, like an OC dinner or something? I looked through the forum and didn't see any but I could have missed it. Willing to drive an hour or so.

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