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Younger Generation

AaronS

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Dustiniac wrote:
AaronS wrote:
Dustiniac wrote:
Racist? No. Realist? Yes
Again, you were the one that asked. Sorry you don't like my answer. Sorry I'm not good enough for you...
Sorry you dont like my answer. Additionally, sad for you.
It's not to sad. I think as long as we try to stick to the topic of Open Carry, we will both get over it. In the end we will have protected our rights as a team.
 

fisheyes

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I don't care how old you or what color or race you are! and it should not matter to any one here, but in the last few days I have noticed a lot more name calling a lot more jumping on some one because of the way a situation was handled,

I know if I was a anti I would be sitting back laughing my arse off at this forum. Who was that guy Rodney King that said "why cant we all just get along." This forum has taught me a bunch of things that I consider useful in helping me to O.C. and it has taught me not to post about anything that may happen to me cause there is someone that is going to jump me for the way I did or didn't do something.

Sorry guys I have learned allot but you all don't play well together, and that is just a natural way of the world that we may disagree with each other, but this board has become out of control. It may or may not mean much to any of you but I think I will just read the post I feel I need to and not say anything, and yea I just said something but somebody had to,
 

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Brass Magnet wrote:
I think I speak for many when I say: "I don't give a hoot about someones age."

Act respectful;earn respect. It's that simple.

If a guy comes off as a young punk or an old punk he'll get the same treatment from me either way.

If a guy comes off as generally respectful and courteous, I will be respectful and couteous in return.

+1

I don't think it is anything to do with age.

I think most on this forum are appropriate. There are a couple of trolls here who seem to be allowed to run rampant at times with disrespectful and inflammatory comments.
 

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Dustiniac wrote:
I am probably one of the younger guys to post on here. I'm guessing, and this is just a guess, the average age of a poster on this forum is around 45. Not surprisingly, some of you guys dont seem to like not only me, but the younger generation all together. So great, you've got open carry, what happens when you pass on? Certain people need to be more open minded and less obtuse, because I am telling you, many attitudes here are driving away people my age.
This is the same doofus who immediately jumps on any thread involving a policeman to do his cop bashing. When the little wet behind the ears greenhorn learns a little respect and tolerance for us oldsters who were in uniform before his parents were born I'll cut him a little slack but for right now he appears to be a loud mouth poseur who tries to make himself look large at the expense of others.

All cops are pigs, or even Barney Fife.
Class young one, real class.

I never met the little munchkin but I will bet you a case of the good stuff he isn't the kind of man who should be carrying a weapon and I certainly wouldn't want him behind me with one.
 

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Old Grump wrote:
Dustiniac wrote:
I am probably one of the younger guys to post on here. I'm guessing, and this is just a guess, the average age of a poster on this forum is around 45. Not surprisingly, some of you guys dont seem to like not only me, but the younger generation all together. So great, you've got open carry, what happens when you pass on? Certain people need to be more open minded and less obtuse, because I am telling you, many attitudes here are driving away people my age.
This is the same doofus who immediately jumps on any thread involving a policeman to do his cop bashing.  When the little wet behind the ears greenhorn learns a little respect and tolerance for us oldsters who were in uniform before his parents were born I'll cut him a little slack but for right now he appears to be a loud mouth poseur who tries to make himself look large at the expense of others. 

All cops are pigs, or even Barney Fife.
Class young one, real class. 

I never met the little munchkin but I will bet you a case of the good stuff he isn't the kind of man who should be carrying a weapon and I certainly wouldn't want him behind me with one. 
YUP! Agreed 100% and I'll second that last comment, Grump.

Personally, I have nothing against anyone until they give me cause. Abrasive, disrespectful, rude, contentious, insolent, mocking, divisive attitudes can be a touchy spot with me.

Just plain arrogant, stupid or ignorant mouth breathers of any age will do it for me too. Take your pick.

Play nice and I will do my best too. We are all here to help each other and learn. We stand together for a common cause. If one's ego is to big to fit, one probably needs to look elsewhere.

Hint: if one does not "fit in" anywhere, one should probably take an introspective inventory. If trouble seems to follow you everywhere you go, maybe it's you.

Just remember, "An armed society is a polite society." Heavy emphasis on "polite".

I'm just sayin' here. . .
 

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Dustiniac wrote:
J.Gleason wrote:
I don't think age has anything to do with it. Don't take this as a personal attack but when you first came into the forum you gave many the impression that you were a hard head. If someone responded to your posts in such a way that you did not understand. You took it as a personal attack against you.

You became insulting and rude. Now to be fair, there were many times that others including myself were rude as well. But it is human nature to respond in a like manner.

I for one respect your military service and I know that everyone else here does as well. That goes without question. But your responses to others here have indicated that you could give a rats behind as to what anyone else has done as long as everyone recognizes what you have done. I know this for a fact because of comments you have made regarding my service.

I think this is a fair analogy and if it is not then feel free to help me understand your way of thinking.

For the most part we all want the same thing here. Some of us have been at this longer than others and some have actually broken some new ground in this movement and of course it is always with the support of everyone here that those things are accomplished.

There are plenty of old timers here that may or may not seem friendly at first but with all of the trolls that come here can you really blame them? After you post and interact with the other members for a while they come to realize that you are one of us and things get better.

Maybe it is just better to let go of the past conversations and try to learn from each other and work together. United we stand and divided we fail. I welcome any new members that choose to come here in support and choose to exercise their rights.
Age doesn't matter and in fact the younger members are the future of this movement. As you have pointed out the manner in which we treat each other is a two way street. When I was your age I remembered that my parents taught me to have respect for seniors. I think that a younger individual who shows such respect is in turn respected by all. But that is just my .02.

Either way, I welcome all members old and young.
Fair enough. I've been a jerk at times.
However, I have referenced people to this site and they later told me they wouldn't join. One dude asked me how I deal with all old guys and how, "isnt it like talking to a stubborn old grandpa?"


This is the attitude that gets the youngsters into trouble.

My Dad always told me and my siblings as we got to be teenagers and thought we knew everything, "the older they get the dumber they get."

We use to laugh at him and say then you must be pretty dumb then Dad.

But, you know the older I get the dumber I do get because I realize through time that I don't know all that I thought I knew. My Dad and all the old grandpas do know what they are talking about. One can learn from others or one can be a fool and not take head.

Young people don't realize that the older generations have been there and done that. Yes, technologies change but the basics of the human heart doesn't.
 

davegran

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Dustiniac wrote:
....I have referenced people to this site and they later told me they wouldn't join. One dude asked me how I deal with all old guys and how, "isnt it like talking to a stubborn old grandpa?"
I'm pleased that they won't be joining because they are obviously too immature to contribute anything useful. Maybe after they grow up and get a little seasoning, they'll come back and see how much we seem to have changed....
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Contempt prior to investigation shall forever leave you in the darkness of ignorance. Author unknown. But debatable.
Even though there are persons here that share some debateably stupid not to well thought out blurbs (usually emotional or ego based) there is something to learned from it. Unfortuatly it comes at a cost of alienating yourself. I have done so, many a time. I too have graduated from the school of hard knocks, heck even got my Masters!
Made me a little wiser, after I changed my Major and decided to go more with the flow.
There are people in life that will rub us the wrong way, no doubt about it. However, if we care enough about a belief or in this case, the OC "movement" it might be in our best interests to help instead of shun.
Do we want to create an opposing force, or a stronger one?
Just sayin'
 

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Bottom line is that we welcome all ages with open arms and are willing, nay, eager to stand with you through it all. there are some even tougher times on the horizon. Yes tougher than now. Your energy and desire to be part of something important are highly valued as is the wisdom and knowledge found with our elders.

The most fortuitous meeting I ever had was my introduction to a gentleman who loved the Constitution, a retired US Army Ranger armorer served in places he never spoke about. Taught me more about guns and shooting them then I could have learned on my own in two lifetimes.

Had I been a smart azz or arrogant or disrespectful, I would not have garnered half the knowledge I possess today. I am reminded of the scene in the movie, The Postman when they are all gathered to meet him. The kids and one older fellow. I paraphrase here; The Postman asks what he is doing there with all those young kids, as he is so old and he replies, I know stuff.

The same is true with the grandpas here. I reckon more than one grandpa will still be around when many young smart azzes are long died and gone. Learn while you can. Smart azz, arrogant attitudes tell more about you than anyone you're talking about.

Nobody wants a head shaker and we all value your opinion, we just don't need the lip. Respect is a valued commodity here on the OCDO forum. That goes right along with; you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Just my opinion.
 

J.Gleason

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I have 3 grandchildren and four children and I teach them all to respect their elders.

IMHO nothing is more valuable then the experiences of a WWI or WWII veteran or even a Vietnam Vet. Some of these younger people today just don't see it that way.

It has to be all about ME ME ME. If everyone isn't looking at them and focusing all of the attention on them, then they act out to get the attention.

Like I said before, it could have all been avoided with 15 minutes behind the wood shed.

The whoopins we older guys got when we were growing up actually did teach us something.

It wasn't until the 80's and 90's when the courts destroyed a parents life for correcting and disciplining their children that caused the youth of today to be as disrespectful and show such disregard for life, liberty and the laws as they do today.

Most young adults today should get leather products for Christmas. A belt in the mouth and a Boot in the arse.
 

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I don't really see what the issue is here. Age has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you think you are responsible enough to open carry, just make sure you know the laws. What is the point of coming on here and bashing people regardless of age, race, sex,or occupation? This is about as moronic as the La Crosse Tribune column about the picnic. I am younger and have been treated with nothing but respect from all of the fine folks I have met at any open carry event.
 
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