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WV firearm restoration do I need it?

mustang68

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I will be moving across the state line from VA to WV in the next few months. 10 years ago I was convicted of 1 count of forgery in VA. I have since had my civil rights and firearm rights restored in VA. My question is... Is there anything I need to do in WV to "remain legal"? Do I need to have my firearm rights restored in WV or will they recognize that automatically since I have done so in VA?
 

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Join the WVCDL for starters!

To stay on the safe side. I would contact the WV local Sheriff's office in the town your moving to and ask them.
Maybe a heads up to WV State Patrol office would be advisable also.

When I moved my modest gun collection into WV, I contacted the WVSP office to get their thoughts and or concerns.
Everything worked out for me, I have no experience on matters such as yours, good luck in your quest!

You may want to think joining the WVCDL as starters. They have the most knowledgeable gun people in the state.

Darryl
 
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rightwinglibertarian

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To stay on the safe side. I would contact the WV local Sheriff's office in the town your moving to and ask them.
Maybe a heads up to WV State Patrol office would be advisable also.

When I moved my modest gun collection into WV, I contacted the WVSP office to get their thoughts and or concerns.
Everything worked out for me, I have no experience on matters such as yours, good luck in your quest!

You may want to think joining the WVCDL as starters. They have the most knowledgeable gun people in the state.

Darryl
Good gracious no! Don't ask the police anything. They are trained to lie and will do so. Now i'm not a lawyer at all but if WV accepts the VA permit then there isnt a lot WV can do. You have the permission in the form of your permit.

And Darryl WHY for goodness sakes would you give the police any information? Thats just asking to be harassed and for somebody to get the idea you need a no knock raid to your home.
 

mustang68

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When the circuit court judge restored my firearm rights in VA he did say that it was my responsibility to inform the VA state police of my restoration so that their database would be updated. I was told by my lawyer, which has been useful, to carry a copy of my restored civil rights and restored firearm rights with me (at all times). Every time I've purchased a firearm since I've always showed the dealer up front my court order.

I just don't know if there is reciprocity between states on court orders the same way there is with CCW licenses.
 

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When the circuit court judge restored my firearm rights in VA he did say that it was my responsibility to inform the VA state police of my restoration so that their database would be updated. I was told by my lawyer, which has been useful, to carry a copy of my restored civil rights and restored firearm rights with me (at all times). Every time I've purchased a firearm since I've always showed the dealer up front my court order.

I just don't know if there is reciprocity between states on court orders the same way there is with CCW licenses.
It's called the "Full Faith and Credit" clause in the Constitution. If it were not for that I'd have gotten a divorce in all the other 56 states just to make sure the one I got here worked everywhere else.

Continuing to follow your attorney's advice about keeping a copy of your court orders sounds like a good idea. Have you gotten your court orders filed in the Clerk of the Circuit Court's Record Book for the county where they were issued? You could then ask for certified copies - one to carry, one to store at home, and one to be stored off-site (attorney or good friend). You could also bring one of your certified copies to the WV Circuit Court Clerk and ask to have it entered in their Record Book. I have no idea if you need to/ought to file a copy with the WV state police - it probably depends on if they use the state criminal records or submit directly to the FBI.

stay safe.
 

mustang68

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It's called the "Full Faith and Credit" clause in the Constitution. If it were not for that I'd have gotten a divorce in all the other 56 states just to make sure the one I got here worked everywhere else.

Continuing to follow your attorney's advice about keeping a copy of your court orders sounds like a good idea. Have you gotten your court orders filed in the Clerk of the Circuit Court's Record Book for the county where they were issued? You could then ask for certified copies - one to carry, one to store at home, and one to be stored off-site (attorney or good friend). You could also bring one of your certified copies to the WV Circuit Court Clerk and ask to have it entered in their Record Book. I have no idea if you need to/ought to file a copy with the WV state police - it probably depends on if they use the state criminal records or submit directly to the FBI.

stay safe.

This I don't know... Everything was handled by my attorney. I do have 5 certified copies that was provided to me by my attorney. My plan(s) are to keep one at the house locked up, one on me at all times (that I would have a gun), one in each vehicle... My attorney said that he also retained another copy for his practice.

We are basically moving right across the border into WV... I'm not a HUGE firearm owner but I do own my share and have purchased a few from the same dealer in VA without any issues. I don't guess it would hurt to file a copy with the WV state police. I'm a big believer in CYA... Apparently after you get convicted for forging your supervisors name on a purchase order (when they are the only one allowed to sign and everyone else did the same thing) causes you to look at things differently.
 

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Rightwinglib,
I've never had any bad dealings with the local Sheriff's Dept. or State Police in either state.

My collection has several NFA items in it...so I'm pretty well documented with the authorities anyway.

I've had several ATF home inspections over the years, nothing to speak about, their just doing their job.
I've also been approached on several occasions to show my collection at the Sheriff's Fund raising events.
I'm a FFL-03 collector, I haven't to date taken them up on the offer.

Not everybody is so paranoid as you are, I try to be on the straight and narrow with the men in blue, it'll
most likely benefit me in the future.

Just a Tea Party guy,

Darryl
 

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I like to take pics of important docs on my phone too - never had to use but I think it is better than waving hands around.


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gcbailey

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Been meaning to reply and my work schedule has been hectic....
 
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solus

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This is false. Law enforcement officers are not "trained" to lie.

But it certainly is inadvisable to ask them legal questions. They are not lawyers and also not lawfully able to give legal advice.
What tactics can the police use when questioning a suspect?
The police, however, can use lying, trickery, and other types of non-coercive methods to obtain a confession from a suspect.
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/faqs-police-interrogations.html

now pk, my momma raised me to always never lie, so i am sure the nice LEs have had to have been trained to overcome their momma's raising and training!!

ipse
 

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The police, however, can use lying, trickery, and other types of non-coercive methods to obtain a confession from a suspect.
I never said we couldn't.

But there is no training for it. You really think there is some academy or in-service course where we're actually told to lie? Even the Reid interview training doesn't do that. I've lied to suspects I was interviewing, but I've never lied on the stand or in a written report or at a depo. And I've never been prepped by a D.A. and told to lie on the stand or in a report.

This belief that there is some official training for it is non-sense.
 

solus

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I never said we couldn't.

But there is no training for it. You really think there is some academy or in-service course where we're actually told to lie? Even the Reid interview training doesn't do that. I've lied to suspects I was interviewing, but I've never lied on the stand or in a written report or at a depo. And I've never been prepped by a D.A. and told to lie on the stand or in a report.

This belief that there is some official training for it is non-sense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_perjury

http://www.criminalattorney.com/news/police-can-lie-to-you/

policeone:

http://www.policeone.com/policeones...1o8kidfsq-a&ie=UTF-8&cof=FORID:9&q=police+lie

like i said, your momma didn't teach ya to lie...

ipse...
 
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