demnogis
Regular Member
Beg my pardon, but who are you again?Glad you chimed in...they don't listen to me...
I jest, I jest. It bothers me somewhat that for some reason people won't listen to a LEO who is very much PRO-liberty.
Beg my pardon, but who are you again?Glad you chimed in...they don't listen to me...
Hey Cato,
Please chalk this too ignorance of your record on my part; I don't know your record.
I respect your opinion and enjoy your posts; however, I don't know of your personal accomplishments or attempts at changing our system.
Some of us who are involved in this political war are cheerleaders--WHICH INCLUDES ME!
Some of us are political warriors who are actually working to get things accomplished. Elsensei, Big Toe, Hgreen, Dale, et allia are actually doing things which includes, for one person anyway, getting illegally arrested.
Where is the political campaign or judicial record of your work? Again, I am sure this is a case of IGNORANCE on my part and I apologize for that.
There are two types of leadership grants: Du jour and defacto. One is earned by actions performed and experience gained, the other is given by authoritarians who rule from above.
Some on this forum have earned a leadership role with their actions.
thanks,
markm
Beg my pardon, but who are you again?
I jest, I jest. It bothers me somewhat that for some reason people won't listen to a LEO who is very much PRO-liberty.
You can be detained for a reasonable amount of time if there is RAS that a crime has or is about to occur. You can't be detained if there isn't RAS. If you are (e) checked and it lasts 20 minutes then your rights have been violated. If it lasts more than a minute then your rights have been violated (unless the officers actually have RAS).
and i am sure all LEOs will claim they need 20 minutes to determine if there was a crime committed, will be a crime, or if there is a crime. OCPDs will always try to harass since it is an antigun county.
Beg my pardon, but who are you again?
I jest, I jest. It bothers me somewhat that for some reason people won't listen to a LEO who is very much PRO-liberty.
Cato,
Just curious. In the line of duty have you run into OCers? Do you/would you "e" check? Does your department have a policy that mandates "e" checks?
i didn't know cato was a LEO...
Cato,
Just curious. In the line of duty have you run into OCers? Do you/would you "e" check? Does your department have a policy that mandates "e" checks?
according to lawyer, they need to violate you several times before you have a real case. one time is an oopsie and won't win much in court. i already got one case and waiting for a second time for the OCPDs to violate my rights again before I may get a case.
another sad thing is that they are legally allowed to detain you up to 20 minutes to determine if you are committing a crime. only if they arrested me and took me to central jail, then i really have a case.
I can tell you though that I am confident I have standing as 12031(e) was provided as a reason they detained me. . . We will see what options are available once I win my appeal.
I'd have the biggest s**t eating grin you'd ever seen and you'd probably interpret the bear hug I'd deliver in the spirit of 2A love as a 4th A seizure.
Hey Cato,
Please chalk this too ignorance of your record on my part; I don't know your record.
I respect your opinion and enjoy your posts; however, I don't know of your personal accomplishments or attempts at changing our system.
Some of us who are involved in this political war are cheerleaders--WHICH INCLUDES ME!
Some of us are political warriors who are actually working to get things accomplished. Elsensei, Big Toe, Hgreen, Dale, et allia are actually doing things which includes, for one person anyway, getting illegally arrested.
Where is the political campaign or judicial record of your work? Again, I am sure this is a case of IGNORANCE on my part and I apologize for that.
There are two types of leadership grants: Du jour and defacto. One is earned by actions performed and experience gained, the other is given by authoritarians who rule from above.
Some on this forum have earned a leadership role with their actions.
thanks,
markm
'e' is in the cross hairs. We won't hear the report however until the CGF trigger puller is already cycling the bolt handle and the target takes it's first hit. !
I'd have the biggest s**t eating grin you'd ever seen and you'd probably interpret the bear hug I'd deliver in the spirit of 2A love as a 4th A seizure.
No policy that I've seen although that lexipol crap gets updated automatically. I've seen some memos and the conversation at the briefing table was ' big deal the gun should be loaded anyway'. Most favor CC fewer OC. Ca LE will come around IMO pretty fast once the right is protected in some cleear form. The difficulty for most officers is all gun calls are bad because we only encounter BGs with guns.
No I haven't seen any UOCers while at work. I could not bring myself however do an e check. If I was ordered to...that would be a bad day.
Did encounter a CCWer who brandished in self defense once. We were able to help him get out of that with no issues thankfully. No report so the DA could not **** with him.
I have attended several UOC events years ago in SD back when I was encouraging pns25. Had a lot of fun back then. Sadly I understand now that it just wasn't our time.
I thought you gave up on your appeal.
Although, if you'd been eating s**t, I don't think you would be grinning.I'd have the biggest s**t eating grin you'd ever seen and you'd probably interpret the bear hug I'd deliver in the spirit of 2A love as a 4th A seizure.