Why Might You Need a Gun on Virginia Tech's Ultra-safe, Gun-free Campus?

[thebigsd]

Does anyone know what the handwritten message was that Ashley left at the greenhouse?

According to this article and several others I read, the police have made no connection between the handwritten message and Ashley.

 

[papa bear]

According to this article and several others I read, the police have made no connection between the handwritten message and Ashley.

OK, does anybody know what the message on the green house wall, that police have found no connection to the shooter, was or is?

 

[va_tazdad]

Nothing new about this.

This is the second time this has happened. I now regard the Dispatch as unreliable.

See this instead:

Ross Ashley offered no signs of future danger as a college freshman, former roommate says


Ashley was the Non-Cho. No red flags whatsoever. Thus, there was no way the government could have prevented Ashley from obtaining, then using, the gun to commit murder.

This has actually become a case example illustrating the futility of government background checks and prior restraint generally.

I have called them the Richmond Times Disgrace for years. Honesty, accuracy and truthfulness are NOT the norm for them. For a while, I thought Dangerous Dan Rather was running the yellow rag.

 

[Repeater]

I have called them the Richmond Times Disgrace for years. Honesty, accuracy and truthfulness are NOT the norm for them. For a while, I thought Dangerous Dan Rather was running the yellow rag.

The Richmond News-Leader was pretty good. Then Media-General bought the paper and closed it. It's called progress.

 

[Repeater]

Gun Owners = "Lesser Individuals"

This is from a professor:

Easy guns, hard deaths

Eight people dead in the last two weeks - six in North Carolina, two in Virginia - and all might be alive today if four of them had not had guns and murderous, suicidal impulses.

In two of these cases, in Moore County and in Blacksburg, Va., victims were police officers, one serving a warrant, the other making a traffic stop. Another victim, in Wendell, was a man trying to get out of a relationship with another man. The fourth was the wife of a service member just back from Afghanistan. In all the cases, the shooter killed himself. Investigations become cursory and futile with no one to interview, and even the news stories get buried.

...

I never have been rabidly anti-gun, and I even competed on my college rifle team and had a father and brothers who were avid hunters. It is hard not to conclude, though, that easily obtainable (especially in Virginia) pistols hold a lot more potential for injury than any public good, no matter what the advocates of gun ownership contend.

I believe the presence of guns in society is more likely to be harmful than beneficial. I cannot take seriously the people who believe that carrying concealed weapons will make all of us safer.

To think that a gun-toting citizen is going to intervene in a life-or-death crisis to save the day is simply wrong. If the two police officers tragically killed, men who carried firearms and had recurrent training on their use, could not defend themselves, how is a lesser individual going to protect someone else?

More from David Codrea.

The Professor:

Bob Kochersberger teaches journalism in the English department at N.C. State University. He can be reached at bobkochs@gmail.com.

 

[TFred]

no matter what the advocates of gun ownership contend.

The guy loses his debate right here. Admits that no matter what facts the other side may have to present, it won't matter, his mind is made up.

Loser.

TFred

 

[Repeater]

The guy loses his debate right here. Admits that no matter what facts the other side may have to present, it won't matter, his mind is made up.

Loser.

TFred

He teaches Journalism.

 

[peter nap]

He teaches Journalism.

There's always a job waiting at the Roanoke Times.:banghead:

 

[Grapeshot]

This is from a professor:

Easy guns, hard deaths

Being misguided and ill informed is not restricted to academia, although there seems to be a plethora of it there. Having an illogical opinion creates neither truth nor fact.

If swords had been outlawed, the Roman legions would not have slaughtered so many people. :banghead:

If England had outlawed knives sooner, Jack the Ripper's victims would have lived out their full lives. :banghead:

If fertilizer and diesel fuel had been illegal, the Oklahoma tragedy would never have occurred. :banghead:

If it had been illegal to fly airplanes into buildings, 9-11 would never have happened. :banghead:

My dear professor, do you not know the difference between a defensive use of a tool and the manifestly human act of aggression? The problem with your version of Utopia is that you would remove all objects that might harm people and that, sir, is an absolute impossibility!! Along the way, we would become as lambs waiting for the slaughter.

OTOH, we [strike]would[/strike] will allow people to make their own choice as to whether to defend/protect themselves in the face of such threats or cringe in terror. Maybe there will be adequate time (not likely) to call 911 and wait for the arrival of what?..........men with GUNS. Strange that.

I respect your right to have an opinion on the matter but find the quality of your presentation to be well below standard - hence do not be surprised when you see an F on your report card.

 

[nuc65]

This is from a professor:

Easy guns, hard deaths


More from David Codrea.

The Professor:

Bob Kochersberger teaches journalism in the English department at N.C. State University. He can be reached at bobkochs@gmail.com.

I'm not looking to make everyone safer (the perceived role of the police) only myself.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

In my experience it's always a double standard with the anti's.

"How dare you carry that gun! You're just endangering innocent people!"

Then the SHTF...

"How dare you, only carrying to protect yourself! I think you are obligated to save me!"