smttysmth02gt
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Why do YOU OC? Personally, I choose to CC. Reason being, NOBODY OC's around here. I don't think I have EVER seen anyone OC'ing. This means that if I did OC, I'd be the only one. So if anything did go down where I am needed in the manner of defense, I would be the first target taken out in such an event. This is the main reason I choose to CC.
(BORDERLINE RANT
Secondly, you can argue who said what when where and how and what the laws are, but in the end it does not matter. Most times when I read stuff on this site, I get the feeling that most people are just sheep. Like the justification for being able to OC (or CC) is because "insert names here" says I can. Like the supreme court rulings, case law, and AG opinions somehow give you permission. The fact of the matter is, if none of those existed, you still can OC if you really want to. Of course, I could be reading this the wrong way, as this is what is also used to wrap mental understanding of others around the idea that it is "OK" to OC.
Ultimately, it does not matter if they changed case law and stated in all caps and bold that "OC IS PERFECTLY LEGAL". Reason? Disorderly conduct charge. Why is nobody writing our state legislature about this problem? This is a huge HUGE problem within the justice system. This problem is not just tied to OC, CC, or anything else of the like. If I fart in public, I can be arrested. Instead of writing the legislature for clearer language on the legality of OC, why not write the state legislature to PREVENT certain actions or situations from being deem-able as "disorderly conduct".
One of the reasons that most cops will state that OC is illegal is because of the disorderly conduct charge. It doesn't matter if it's illegal or legal in the end.
Here is the short and sweet:
1. OC
2. LEO is called.
3. LEO says it's illegal, you show him that it is not".
4. LEO says it is because you're being charge with disorderly conduct.
5. You say OC is legal.
6. He says that might be true, but disorderly conduct is illegal.
7. End result = OC is legal, but disorderly conduct charge was indirectly created by the action of OC.
I guess my whole point in this is...why is there so much attention focused on OC, when the root of the problem (and yes, there is a problem - indirectly linking OC to being illegal) lies with the disorderly conduct charge?
And of course I was also curious for your personal reasons for OC.
Why do YOU OC? Personally, I choose to CC. Reason being, NOBODY OC's around here. I don't think I have EVER seen anyone OC'ing. This means that if I did OC, I'd be the only one. So if anything did go down where I am needed in the manner of defense, I would be the first target taken out in such an event. This is the main reason I choose to CC.
(BORDERLINE RANT
Secondly, you can argue who said what when where and how and what the laws are, but in the end it does not matter. Most times when I read stuff on this site, I get the feeling that most people are just sheep. Like the justification for being able to OC (or CC) is because "insert names here" says I can. Like the supreme court rulings, case law, and AG opinions somehow give you permission. The fact of the matter is, if none of those existed, you still can OC if you really want to. Of course, I could be reading this the wrong way, as this is what is also used to wrap mental understanding of others around the idea that it is "OK" to OC.
Ultimately, it does not matter if they changed case law and stated in all caps and bold that "OC IS PERFECTLY LEGAL". Reason? Disorderly conduct charge. Why is nobody writing our state legislature about this problem? This is a huge HUGE problem within the justice system. This problem is not just tied to OC, CC, or anything else of the like. If I fart in public, I can be arrested. Instead of writing the legislature for clearer language on the legality of OC, why not write the state legislature to PREVENT certain actions or situations from being deem-able as "disorderly conduct".
One of the reasons that most cops will state that OC is illegal is because of the disorderly conduct charge. It doesn't matter if it's illegal or legal in the end.
Here is the short and sweet:
1. OC
2. LEO is called.
3. LEO says it's illegal, you show him that it is not".
4. LEO says it is because you're being charge with disorderly conduct.
5. You say OC is legal.
6. He says that might be true, but disorderly conduct is illegal.
7. End result = OC is legal, but disorderly conduct charge was indirectly created by the action of OC.
I guess my whole point in this is...why is there so much attention focused on OC, when the root of the problem (and yes, there is a problem - indirectly linking OC to being illegal) lies with the disorderly conduct charge?
And of course I was also curious for your personal reasons for OC.