crash5150
Regular Member
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Of course its our right to carry but....
I just realized, why carry outside of larger group carries if..
a) we are going to get harrassed by law enforcement and
b) there is not the right information available to us to file lawsuits when our rights are violated.. and
c) knowledge of an attorney, team of attorneys or firms that will pick up these lawsuits/cases.
obviously complaints and internal investigations isn't doing the trick. Complaints go unanswered or brushed off by some captain. If we continue with this open carry bit, I would think that a plan needs to be set into motion to actually fight back against the LEO's that are violating our rights, and not just with the departments own procedures of these complaints.
Maybe I'm coming from a different standpoint because I have a CCW. But instead of just creating a headache for some of these departments, bad press, and increasing tension between citizens and police, why not actually hit em where it hurts... the pocket books.. of the officers and the departments.
I think some of the veteran carriers or the ones with more money and knowledge should set up a procedure, or at least have information compiled on how to start a suit process against the officers and departments, with attorneys to retain.
There almost needs to be a board that does some organization. I don't have enough knowledge to do it, or the money to do it. Then we can get little chapters set up here and there. Get a little organization with actual contact information instead of just a message board.
But it comes down to.. what is in it for us except for exercising our rights. If our rights are violated, we really have no offensive recourse.. just defensive. I've called a dozen attorneys from where I'm from and no one is even interested in taking up a civil rights case.
So why take the chance if you have no real recourse?
Of course its our right to carry but....
I just realized, why carry outside of larger group carries if..
a) we are going to get harrassed by law enforcement and
b) there is not the right information available to us to file lawsuits when our rights are violated.. and
c) knowledge of an attorney, team of attorneys or firms that will pick up these lawsuits/cases.
obviously complaints and internal investigations isn't doing the trick. Complaints go unanswered or brushed off by some captain. If we continue with this open carry bit, I would think that a plan needs to be set into motion to actually fight back against the LEO's that are violating our rights, and not just with the departments own procedures of these complaints.
Maybe I'm coming from a different standpoint because I have a CCW. But instead of just creating a headache for some of these departments, bad press, and increasing tension between citizens and police, why not actually hit em where it hurts... the pocket books.. of the officers and the departments.
I think some of the veteran carriers or the ones with more money and knowledge should set up a procedure, or at least have information compiled on how to start a suit process against the officers and departments, with attorneys to retain.
There almost needs to be a board that does some organization. I don't have enough knowledge to do it, or the money to do it. Then we can get little chapters set up here and there. Get a little organization with actual contact information instead of just a message board.
But it comes down to.. what is in it for us except for exercising our rights. If our rights are violated, we really have no offensive recourse.. just defensive. I've called a dozen attorneys from where I'm from and no one is even interested in taking up a civil rights case.
So why take the chance if you have no real recourse?