Who needs a gun at Wal-mart in Houston?

[OPS MARINE]

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What I mean is this...if I were there at the Wal-Mart (as a customer), and I saw things trending in that direction (of the situation) or saw the grabbing and knife myself, I would have SHOT him or threatened him with some other violent action, should shooting him either become unnecessary or improbable to act upon. The security there wasn't doing his job. For every company that won't hire you for saving someone's life, I bet there's another that will. Two points in one.

 

[George Mann]

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OPS MARINE wrote:

What I mean is this...if I were there at the Wal-Mart (as a customer), and I saw things trending in that direction (of the situation) or saw the grabbing and knife myself, I would have SHOT him or threatened him with some other violent action, should shooting him either become unnecessary or improbable to act upon. The security there wasn't doing his job. For every company that won't hire you for saving someone's life, I bet there's another that will. Two points in one.

That's all fine and dandy, but...

Trying to violently intervene with someone holding a knife on another (especially at the throat) will usually result in the victim getting hurt.

The best response to such a scenario is (seeing that your armed) to give him a chance to cease and desist from his actions, or face counter-consequences (being shot) himself upon acting on his threat (not before hand)!

Do not draw your gun until you intend to shoot. This must be handled in a very careful and diplomatic way!

 

[OPS MARINE]

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I thought that it would be painfully obvious that I would employ diplomatic means before drawing and firing upon the individual. Any time a weapon is drawn, the person carrying must be ready and willing to shoot. I am.

Saying that I would have shot him basically means that I had exhausted all other means of communication, 911 has been called, others are there as witnesses, because of the sound of my voice, et cetera, et cetera. I am not a personal SWAT Team, or the least bit uneducated in the area of armed confrontation.

 

[zoom6zoom]

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Why do these companies pay for "security" if they can't do anything?

Like the TSA, they are there to make the mindless "feel" safe. Until something actually happens and they prove how worthless all their "security theater" really is.

 

[crisisweasel]

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I wonder what the overall deterrent effect would be of having some goombahs in front of the store with baseball bats, even if they weren't technically empowered to use them.

 

[bomber]

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do you think that the security guards at least shined their flashlights at the guy :lol:

 

[Porter N]

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bomber wrote:

do you think that the security guards at least shined their flashlights at the guy :lol:

Walmart 'security' is usually just two or three Asset Protection Agents in plain clothes and an Asset Protection Coordinator in managers attire. They don't have weapons or flashlights or anything other than a radio.

 

[eye95]

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*brandishes a walkie-talkie*

Halt! Or, I'll radio for help!

 

[Grapeshot]

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eye95 wrote:

*brandishes a walkie-talkie*

Halt! Or, I'll radio for help!

Isn't that a lot like when dialing 911 when seconds count?

Yata hey

 

[Hollowpoint38]

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eye95 wrote:

*brandishes a walkie-talkie*

Halt! Or, I'll radio for help!

we need to have some shirts made with that on the back, then take a stroll to the mall.

 

[Brimstone Baritone]

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^^^ They're there to make sure no one is loitering. Tried to catch a nap one time on my lunch break while working at a different store, and the :cuss:woke me up to ask me what I was doing. :banghead:

 

[open4years]

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AbNo wrote:

http://consumerist.com/2010/03/woma...ys-security-did-nothing-to-stop-attacker.html

A Houston woman says she was attacked by a man wielding a knife inside her local Walmart and that the store security did nothing to stop the incident or to apprehend the attacker.
According to the woman, she went to the store around 6 a.m. to do some pre-breakfast grocery shopping when she claims a man put her in a chokehold and pulled a knife on her.

We had a situation at a Walmart near me; No weapons were involved. What happened was a guy picked up a pair of underwear and approached women. He would ask them if they thought this undearwear will fit this. He then pulled down his shorts to expose his enlarged privates.

He did this to five women. Three talked to security seperately about the guy. What did they do? Absolutely nothing. Finally the guy left, security followed behind him. One if the assaulted women screamed at security to do something, but they did nothing.

She got into her car and parked her car so to block him from leaving. She then called 911. That was what the women begged Walmart to do if they weren't going to do anything else. Several of the other women gathered around his car.

Walmart security stood near their door while this was happening about 80 feet away. The guy was arrested. The paper put his picture on the front page and the article totally bashed Walmart's 'security.'

Since they didn't even call 911 and were too afraid to approach this young punk wearing a T-shirt and shorts. Since he pulled down his shorts and lifted his shirt; It was pretty obvious he didn't have a gun.

My point? If Walmart security didn't help in this situation, do you think they would help you if you were being attacked by someone with a knife or gun?? This is a good story (real) to share with your anti-gun friends and family

 

[Grapeshot]

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open4years wrote:

We had a situation at a Walmart near me; No weapons were involved. What happened was a guy picked up a pair of underwear and approached women. He would ask them if they thought this undearwear will fit this. He then pulled down his shorts to expose his enlarged privates.

He did this to five women. Three talked to security seperately about the guy. What did they do? Absolutely nothing. Finally the guy left, security followed behind him. One if the assaulted women screamed at security to do something, but they did nothing.

She got into her car and parked her car so to block him from leaving. She then called 911. That was what the women begged Walmart to do if they weren't going to do anything else. Several of the other women gathered around his car.

Walmart security stood near their door while this was happening about 80 feet away. The guy was arrested. The paper put his picture on the front page and the article totally bashed Walmart's 'security.'

Since they didn't even call 911 and were too afraid to approach this young punk wearing a T-shirt and shorts. Since he pulled down his shorts and lifted his shirt; It was pretty obvious he didn't have a gun.

My point? If Walmart security didn't help in this situation, do you think they would help you if you were being attacked by someone with a knife or gun?? This is a good story (real) to share with your anti-gun friends and family

Would love to have a link to that.

Yata hey

 

[since9]

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My "security guard" rules:

1. Obey all laws, federal, state, and local.

2. Ensure others obey the same.

3. Never hesitate to enforce those laws with whatever force is required, beginning with the least force as is necessary, and progressing to whatever greatest force as is necessary.

If some legal or security firm holds other ideals, they've legally screwed their heads into the legal quagmire that is beyond rational redemption.

Sorry, Perry Mason, but that's the way it is.

 

[johnny amish]

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I thought it was against the law to do something like this, didn't the criminal know this?