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tis been a good and enjoyable run...


Regular Member
Aug 22, 2013
here nc
to the membership,
when i joined this forum in 2013 open carry was still not the norm throughout this great nation...

due to my background, both military & civilian, this individual was trained, so it has become second nature, to minimize/mitigate hearsay misinformation by providing appropriate & reliable cites to documentation so the military leaders & civilian senior leadership could verify the information provided to them as was done on this site. this trait also applied to those state level organizations who used smoke and mirrors in their hearsay nonsense of accomplishments to bilk citizens out of their money to support their alleged organizational purpose using 2A as their holy grail...

this individual upon returning from over 15 years of extensive travel across this world's continents obtained appropriate creds so i could enjoy almost 30+years actively training this nation's civilian citizens, young adults & adults, literally across this country, so these individuals can be knowledgeable in safe handling, legal mandates, so they can skillfully carry their pistol/rifle/shotguns, but specifically SD handguns to use their knowledge/training capabilities if there is a threat against their life and towards their loved ones...

i have had the great privilege over the years, of personally interacting regularly w/dale, paul, double tap, user, the kind folks in WA as well as attending several of the initiative rallies, several of the OC walks in ohio, and even said hello to eye95, as well as others across the country who have, much to my chagrin, ceased contributing to this site for whatever their rational.

after 9 years, i have grown extremely weary of those who insisted on taking my challenges to their hearsay misinformation they presented as gospel to the membership they heard on newspeek/social media or from the bloke down the road who heard it from their grandmother. a recent example was the extremely reckless statements as their hearsay information could have cause significant judicial interaction if any citizens in NY heeded the USSC ruling allowed the citizen to carry their firearms.

there is absolutely no reason to endure this kind of ongoing public disrespect from members as the activity is truly unconscionable in my opinion and as someone stated...the antis can and has use it against the cause.

on the whole, this site's membership, with minimal exception, is the main reason citizen's OC has succeeded across this great land -- and i am extremely proud to be a major contributor to this group's success over the years...

best to you all in your future endeavours, whatever they may be...


ps: and no i won't be sneaking back weekly, signing in just to see what is going on...
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color of law

Accomplished Advocate
Oct 7, 2007
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
I have contemplated taking a sabbatical from this forum including leaving altogether. Now that solus has made the move the survival of this forum, for good or bad, has passed critical condition, but stable to being on life support.

99% of true legal analysis on this forum has been by me. And has never, for the most part, been debunked. Yes, I’m patting myself on my back. But I did not do it for my own gratification, I did it to ensure that forum members did not place themselves in legal jeopardy. Behind the scenes I have helped a number of members be successful in their own legal situations which I have kept to myself and will remain that way.

Handgunlaw.us has always directed questions about Open Carry to this forum. That may cease once there is no continuing education taking place here.

But let’s look on the bright side, Doug_Nightmare will become king of the mountain.

While the forum lingers in hospice care I will, for the moment, step back and just observe. We will see if the operation was a success, but the patient died.

The Bosun

New member
Sep 26, 2020
Though I seldom post here, I check opencarry.org daily and enjoy reading differing opinions. I'm sorry to see anyone go.

Firearms Iinstuctor

Regular Member
Jul 12, 2011
northern wis
Controversies, discussion among members are what drives a forum.

I been attacked, called names ect ect on forums.

I just keep going.

If one can not take some heat on the internet one should not post.

Because the heat is going to come.

Right, wrong or other wise.


Regular Member
Jul 31, 2011
North Carolina
I left for a good amount of time, face it some of us are just getting too old. Now that my health has taken a turn not for the better I am not on the bike as much, and spending more time online. It was only a matter of time before I came back, but I doubt I will be here much longer. The fight is a young healthy man's game now, I hope that I see the likes of Grapeshot in younger hearts.

American Patriot

Regular Member
Mar 5, 2009
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This isn't an airport. No departure announcement necessary.