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The Right Politician

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Some of the guys that we should be voting for, supporting or Ron and Rand Paul. Texas and Kentucky's Senators. (R) Both these guys are 100% Constitution, and in essence 100% Gun rights. I know their track record and on 2nd amendment issues is almost flawless. Two of the few that are in it for the right reasons.

Here is Rand Paul (R) for Kentucky having some fun.

[video=youtube;CDs7Z32Q4hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDs7Z32Q4hs&feature=player_embedded[/video]

[video]http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/rand-paul-shooting-weapons-dont-kill-people[/video]

Here is Ron Paul:

[video=youtube;OpWzZgTrUO8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWzZgTrUO8[/video]
 
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protect our rights

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We just need to stop splitting votes between so many people, pick one, and run with it.

These politicians are not being split, they are from two different states. Texas and Kentucky. Ron Paul will be running for president in 2012. If we vote for him this country will get a whole lot better! Do some research on him.
 

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I like Ron Paul

This year, BTW, (Im not a Republican or Democrat), Michigan elected a governor. The right had run several people and split the votes. The right still one, but the votes for Bouchard, or Cox were split, and some guy named Snyder won. Cox would have been better, Bouchard, ok, but this Snyder guy, whoever he is, who knows?

Republicans are notorious for screwing up like that, pick one, and run with it.
 

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I have supported Ron Paul every time he has run, as a libertarian, and as a republican, but MHO is, he will not run again next year.

His purpose in the last election was to garner enough votes to have some influence. Came close out here, but not close enough.

Whether Rand will or not? we'll see. You have to remember, the business as usual guys in the republician party really do not like either of these two.
 

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I have supported Ron Paul every time he has run, as a libertarian, and as a republican, but MHO is, he will not run again next year.

His purpose in the last election was to garner enough votes to have some influence. Came close out here, but not close enough.

Whether Rand will or not? we'll see. You have to remember, the business as usual guys in the republician party really do not like either of these two.

Yeah, but there is a growing movement lately in America. The grassroots movement and a overall movement towards libertarian and constitutionalism. It is small now but gaining influence and momentum. He has already stated that if he was shown enough interest he would run in 2012 (Ron)
 

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I wont vote for anyone that doesnt have a significant chance of winning.

I won't even comment on that. Ok I guess I will, You perdy much just go with the front runner of the time. (the most popular guy(OBAMA)) You don't vote on principles (which is what it SHOULD be about). The only way to change the "significant chance of winning" is you me and everybody else voting for who we believe in not just whos in the two major parties. I wonder how many good presidents that have not been elected because people think the way you do. If a candidate has about a 5% chance of winning but signifies to me that he has all the attributes that I admire in a leader I will vote for him.
 

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You're on the right track here. The only thing thats missing is someone who is worth voting for, and who is electable. I would love another Regan, or someone like Alan Keys, or Ron Paul, but what we really need, is someone IN the office, not someone that we agree should be in the office.
 

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You're on the right track here. The only thing thats missing is someone who is worth voting for, and who is electable. I would love another Regan, or someone like Alan Keys, or Ron Paul, but what we really need, is someone IN the office, not someone that we agree should be in the office.

All I'm saying is you got to have faith and believe. If everyone had not gotten behind M.L.K how would history be different? I can see that times are changing I will choose to be on the "right" side.
 

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I wont vote for anyone that doesnt have a significant chance of winning.


And that is the attitude that will insure we have more of the same big government folks in office. That is the attitude that dooms our republic. That is the exact attitude that the big government statists, on both sides of the isle count on for their survival.
 

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I wont vote for anyone that doesnt have a significant chance of winning.

Why, do you win something if your guy gets elected? I've been lurking on this forum for a while, but I had to register because this comment made me upset. I hear comments like this all the time from all over the place, even on TV. Bill O'Reiley was talking about CPAC and made a comment about Ron Paul winning. He dismissed him with a wave of his hand and went on to talk about the runner up, Rudy Gulianni. What is it about Ron Paul that makes him so un-electable? He has a 20+ year record of standing up for the constitution and sticking to his principles. If everyone keeps the attitude of only voting for the guy that they think is going to win, then the wrong guy is always going to get elected.

Vote with your heart and not your mind.
 

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Why, do you win something if your guy gets elected? I've been lurking on this forum for a while, but I had to register because this comment made me upset. I hear comments like this all the time from all over the place, even on TV. Bill O'Reiley was talking about CPAC and made a comment about Ron Paul winning. He dismissed him with a wave of his hand and went on to talk about the runner up, Rudy Gulianni. What is it about Ron Paul that makes him so un-electable? He has a 20+ year record of standing up for the constitution and sticking to his principles. If everyone keeps the attitude of only voting for the guy that they think is going to win, then the wrong guy is always going to get elected.

Vote with your heart and not your mind.

Because Ron Paul isn't your republican republican. He is more of a Libertarian, and republicans and democrats (the same twigs of the same branch) are statists and are anti constitutional and don't want someone like Ron Paul to win.
 

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Because Ron Paul isn't your republican republican. He is more of a Libertarian, and republicans and democrats (the same twigs of the same branch) are statists and are anti constitutional and don't want someone like Ron Paul to win.

I don't know the point you are trying to make, but the other posters below my last comment have it right. If we are going to change America's politics then we have to start with the people we vote in office. If everybody truly knew who Ron Paul was, and what he was about; AND voted then he would have NO problem getting into office. I just won't be a part of putting someone in office that slowly destroys our constitution. I'm sorry if he doesn't get elected but that's how I feel. (Random) I bet the founders of this forum vote Ron Paul for president.
 

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And that is the attitude that will insure we have more of the same big government folks in office. That is the attitude that dooms our republic. That is the exact attitude that the big government statists, on both sides of the isle count on for their survival.

Love the name. Also means that you love Ron Paul seeings how he is the FEDs main critic.


If everyone that believes in Paul actually take 10-15 mins to explain to 10 people each what Paul is about, that is how you plant a seed in the minds of others. I mean the civil unrest in the Middle East was started by a Facebook page...
 
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Slightly OT

How many truly believe that "electing" the "right" man/woman will fix America? Really? What can one man or woman do in the face of the the enshrined power manifested in DC?

Also, is there any chance that the "right" person can actually end up on the ballot? When we are presented with Obama or McCain? Bush or Gore? Sure, we get to vote. For THEIR candidates only. Is that really a choice?

Mr. Cynic signing off. Good luck on that election thing.
 

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How many truly believe that "electing" the "right" man/woman will fix America? Really? What can one man or woman do in the face of the the enshrined power manifested in DC?

Also, is there any chance that the "right" person can actually end up on the ballot? When we are presented with Obama or McCain? Bush or Gore? Sure, we get to vote. For THEIR candidates only. Is that really a choice?

Mr. Cynic signing off. Good luck on that election thing.

Ron Paul, you could have voted for him in 2008. You must of been to far up the medias A** to realize. Yes, it DOES start with one man. Already his son (who is just like him) has been elected to congress. I only ask that you stop voting, so people that actually care about America can vote "the right" people.
 

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Wow. Way to influence people...

Ron Paul, you could have voted for him in 2008. You must of been to far up the medias A** to realize. Yes, it DOES start with one man. Already his son (who is just like him) has been elected to congress. I only ask that you stop voting, so people that actually care about America can vote "the right" people.

Actually I did and I don't spend much time up anyone's a** as you so kindly put it... I am in the CFL and I supported all the local TP candidates as well. So please save your bad attitude for those who need it.

And in the upcoming election cycle I will again support RP and the TP but I do wonder about when we will see that this system is clearly broken. And then what will you do? Vote for some other guy? Or get mad at the right people?

The following items are not to start a fight, I'm trying to make a point. Please hear what I am saying, this is not an attack...

I have found that a majority of the Tea Party and Ron Paul supporters that I meet are just as ignorant of basic civics and American history as the Obamites. Stupid is a permanent condition but ignorance can be fixed as it is just the lack of specific information on a given subject. I've met very few stupid people but I have encountered hordes of ignorant folks.

How many of us 2A types are well versed on the Founding Documents of this country? Can you define the word and the concept of "Federal" as the Framers understood it? How about Militia? Why is the 17th Amendment bad for America? Who disarmed your State? Why are your children slaves? Finding the answers to questions like these will lead you down the rabbit hole into a view of America far different than that of the "typical" American.

I hope you can discuss your views coherently and in a civil manner as I believe that we as Americans need to become a far less divisive group and more inclusive. We need to steer away from the Party mindset entirely and into a neighbor relationship.

George Washington said the following, "However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

Think about what he is saying here. Who is he talking about? Have they already done it?

Have a good day and remember to think before you react. Be safe!
 

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...What is it about Ron Paul that makes him so un-electable? He has a 20+ year record of standing up for the constitution and sticking to his principles.

You ask a question and then answer it yourself... :D

The Beltway types don't like him. They will put up the "legitimate" choices for us little people to vote on and RP will never make the actual horserace. He gets to debate but it's just a show. I'd love to be wrong and I will be voting for him come primary time, but the smoke filled rooms will never let him win.

This thing is rigged. Today our Republic is a functioning Oligarchy. Sorry if that offends but it's so true. Today the Few rule over the Many in America. Read George Washington's words in my above posting. He's right. They elevate themselves and then destroy the ladder for the rest of us.
 
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