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Sykes off in his own world again...

wild boar

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Who can't back up what?

What's all this ******* contest B.S.?
There's a discussion going on with someone who can't back up his statements and won't enter in to honest debate with other posters but I don't see a ******* contest anywhere.

If you could speak to specifics I would be able to engage you sir. boar out :D
 

MrBubba

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Not true, this is the same. You want to use the threat of financial hardship [boycott] to sway a business to support your ideals.

The analogy is factually invalid whether or not you are able to discern the difference. The union thugs in Madison were actively protesting, in many cases using picket signs, in front of businesses whose employees individually contributed their own money to Republican candidates. No one here is talking about protesting anyone, certainly not for their personal behavior outside of their workplace. We simply refuse to do business in places that choose to prohibit us from possessing the means of defending ourselves and our families within those businesses. This is no different than refusing to shop in a store that lacks proper fire exits or refusing to vacation on a cruise ship line that choices not to invest in life vests.

The question is not what you would be protecting. The question is what would you be boycotting or protesting?

I would be protecting myself and my family by refusing to do business (boycotting) with establishments that choose to prohibit me from legally possessing the means to defend myself and my family. I have no intention of protesting any business.

A property owner exercises his property rights. Some call for a boycott or protests.

Again, this is not true. I don't see anyone here advocating businesses be protested. If you are having trouble with the differing definitions of boycott and protest, get a dictionary.

I'll ask again because when I see one group clamoring for their rights, then boycott another citizen when he exercises his rights I get confused. I'm really trying to wrap my head around this.

I am starting to think that you actually believe that business owners have some kind right to other people's money. In case you are confused about this, I'll make it easy for you: They don't. It's my money and I am under no obligation to give it to any business. No one here is saying that these businesses can't prohibit concealed weapons on their property. We all acknowledge that it is their legal right under the pending bill. We simply choose not to engage in commerce with these businesses. That is our legal right.

I'm not asking to be a pric, I truly want to understand, so the question still stands, Would you be boycotting his private property rights? Or the fact that he is exercising those rights?

Neither. I would not be boycotting anyone's private property rights of the exercise of those rights. I would simply be choosing not to buy goods and services with my money from individuals who engage in business practices I dislike.

Every successful businessman knows that they are not entitled to revenue. They need to earn the business of each of their customers. If a business refuses to allow me the legal right to defend myself and my family, I'll take my business elsewhere. And then no one's rights will be violated.
 

Grant Guess

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Where does your right end and the property owners start? Are you saying I should not be able to decide who comes onto my property armed?

Would you be boycotting his private property rights? Or the fact that he is exercising those rights?

Not shopping there I can understand, but what exactly would you be boycotting?

He can make that decision as a property owner as is his right. Then he must be willing to pay the price for his stance. I will avoid his business and tell my like-minded friends what his stance is. They will in turn tell their friends.

Is that clear enough or must I type s l o w e r.
 

wild boar

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Just an empty cop out dude.

If you truly want to engage, then all you have to do is read back through the number of posts I directed at your views over the last few days and respond to them. I'm not going to repeat myself again.

I read through my statements, very lite on opinion, heavy on fact, so what don't you comprehend. boar out.
 

Brass Magnet

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I read through my statements, very lite on opinion, heavy on fact, so what don't you comprehend. boar out.
No, my friend, your post is the complete and utter cop-out

Too lazy to hit the Posts button or are you a troll? I'm truthfully beginning to think it's the latter.

Since I'm not too lazy and am not a troll, here's all the posts I made that you didn't bother to answer to.

http://forums.opencarry.com/forums/showthread.php?92111-FOX-NEWS-locals-pressure-wisconsin-Jewlerly-store-owner-threaten-boycott&p=1562295#post1562295

http://forums.opencarry.com/forums/showthread.php?92054-Robert-Haack-Diamonds-responds-to-their-position...&p=1562414#post1562414

http://forums.opencarry.com/forums/showthread.php?91484-Sykes-off-in-his-own-world-again...&p=1562978#post1562978

http://forums.opencarry.com/forums/showthread.php?91484-Sykes-off-in-his-own-world-again...&p=1562987#post1562987
 

wild boar

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Troll prepared, foil intact!


Response. Post 1, The state of WI allowed for property rights under SB 93, not me.

Response. Post 2, Yes it is your right to protest, I never said it wasn't. I just wanted you to think, and choose your battles wisely.

Response. Post 3, Your claim that no member of OCDO is protesting in an unacceptable manner can not be proved to any extent. Public opinion in this matter has been turned against every person who will carry. Guilt by association.

Response. Post 4, Your response in this case is not to me. It was Deadscott's post.


I hope this will soothe your need for attention! From this day forth I'll be sure to PM you everyday, I hate to see one suffer to the point of sarcasm. XOXO. boar out. :)
 

HandyHamlet

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We have met the Boar and his lovely better half. He is most assuredly one of us and not a troll. My hardline opinion.

Don't cross the streams gentlemen! Carry on!
 

Brass Magnet

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Response. Post 1, The state of WI allowed for property rights under SB 93, not me.

Non sequitur.

Response. Post 2, Yes it is your right to protest, I never said it wasn't. I just wanted you to think, and choose your battles wisely.

Understandable; and if you would have said it that way instead of insinuating that we didn't respect private property rights again and again responses to your posting would have been different.

Response. Post 3, Your claim that no member of OCDO is protesting in an unacceptable manner can not be proved to any extent. Public opinion in this matter has been turned against every person who will carry. Guilt by association.
Your claim that public opinion in this matter has been turned against every person who will carry can not be proved to any extent.

See what I did there? :rolleyes:

Response. Post 4, Your response in this case is not to me. It was Deadscott's post.

I figured "You guys" was plural.


I hope this will soothe your need for attention! From this day forth I'll be sure to PM you everyday, I hate to see one suffer to the point of sarcasm. XOXO. boar out. :)

That's allright, at least you kind of answered one thing anyway. I've learned my lesson....:rolleyes:
 

wild boar

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Let me say something strait forward (h)

We have met the Boar and his lovely better half. He is most assuredly one of us and not a troll. My hardline opinion.

Don't cross the streams gentlemen! Carry on!

This ain't "Broke Back Mountain". boar out. :lol:
 

wild boar

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Sir, RE Post #1

Non sequitur.



Understandable; and if you would have said it that way instead of insinuating that we didn't respect private property rights again and again responses to your posting would have been different.


Your claim that public opinion in this matter has been turned against every person who will carry can not be proved to any extent.

See what I did there? :rolleyes:



I figured "You guys" was plural.




That's alright, at least you kind of answered one thing anyway. I've learned my lesson....:rolleyes:

Sir,the fact that my response to post #1 was, IYO, non sequitur, is in fact YHO. The post was so far reaching, and congested in content, I was left to chose but one of many charges. So sorry to leave you feeling incomplete once again. boar out.
 
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