iceman71
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would like too of been there
would like too of been there
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Summer 2009 Milwaukee Open Carry Picnic: May 25th, 2009 (Memorial Day), Time: 3PM-7PM
- Thread starter Mr. Greg
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Mr. Greg
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Thanks everyone for coming, it was a great time.
I haven't counted the donations yet, and will post the grand total when I finish cleaning.
Here's a few of the news stories, immortalized on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNYejgBKAbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcflSSHj7q8
Yes, they made the "licensed firearms" comment a few times, which I assure you was not something I told either news agency.
I hope Fox 6 has other versions of their story online sometime later, as I liked the 10PM version of the story more than the one they currently have on their website.
Protias: That was a misquote/misread by TMJ4; The police letter said the picnic "should not attract their attention as long as it does cause fear or disorder," but we noticed numerous unmarked Greenfield PD cars throughout the afternoon. None ever stopped, obviously.
Russf: Good point, and something to remember/use.
One more thing:
We had a few items left behind: A Green fold-up lounge chair, a glass bowl, and a blue lunchbag with "Steve Possick" on it. Send me a PM if any of these is yours, and we'll have them ready for you if you'd like to pick them up sometime.
Thanks again to everyone who came! I know a few people expressed interest in the process of getting a suppressor, those who did, feel free to send me a PM and I'll write up a basic how-to.
Thanks everyone for coming, it was a great time.
I haven't counted the donations yet, and will post the grand total when I finish cleaning.
Here's a few of the news stories, immortalized on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNYejgBKAbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcflSSHj7q8
Yes, they made the "licensed firearms" comment a few times, which I assure you was not something I told either news agency.
I hope Fox 6 has other versions of their story online sometime later, as I liked the 10PM version of the story more than the one they currently have on their website.
Protias: That was a misquote/misread by TMJ4; The police letter said the picnic "should not attract their attention as long as it does cause fear or disorder," but we noticed numerous unmarked Greenfield PD cars throughout the afternoon. None ever stopped, obviously.
Russf: Good point, and something to remember/use.
One more thing:
We had a few items left behind: A Green fold-up lounge chair, a glass bowl, and a blue lunchbag with "Steve Possick" on it. Send me a PM if any of these is yours, and we'll have them ready for you if you'd like to pick them up sometime.
Thanks again to everyone who came! I know a few people expressed interest in the process of getting a suppressor, those who did, feel free to send me a PM and I'll write up a basic how-to.
Brass Magnet
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I was wondering whose suppresor that was in the video! I'm going to set up a trust one of these days and get some NFA stuff formyself.
I was wondering whose suppresor that was in the video! I'm going to set up a trust one of these days and get some NFA stuff formyself.
Mr. Greg
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Anyone just see the Channel 4 report that was just on?
The one neighbor that wasn't home when I was delivering letters about the event around to them (But left a letter at their house anyways) was interviewed and said that us carrying was an "accident waiting to happen."
Anyone just see the Channel 4 report that was just on?
The one neighbor that wasn't home when I was delivering letters about the event around to them (But left a letter at their house anyways) was interviewed and said that us carrying was an "accident waiting to happen."
Mr. Greg
Campaign Veteran
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Ted Perry gave us a Kudos on his "Ted's Take" just now on Fox 6.
Ted Perry gave us a Kudos on his "Ted's Take" just now on Fox 6.
iceman71
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saw that but channel six di a great report. and his personel comment afterwards was great
saw that but channel six di a great report. and his personel comment afterwards was great
fireftr27
Campaign Veteran
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Yes i just watched the news and heard about your neighbor who said its a accident waiting to happen? Greg you did an great job THANKS!!!!! Rick
Yes i just watched the news and heard about your neighbor who said its a accident waiting to happen? Greg you did an great job THANKS!!!!! Rick
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So if she thinks 40 people carrying guns is an accident waiting to happen, then what about the thousands ofpolice officers who carry daily on the job. (accidents can't happen with them)? Well, theres footage on such things happening-(even a police officer shooting himself in the leg at a grade school!!!!!!! She is one that needs education.
So if she thinks 40 people carrying guns is an accident waiting to happen, then what about the thousands ofpolice officers who carry daily on the job. (accidents can't happen with them)? Well, theres footage on such things happening-(even a police officer shooting himself in the leg at a grade school!!!!!!! She is one that needs education.
Geoff
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I watched channel 6's 9:00 news and channel 4's 10:00 news. It was depressing how many people have been victims of violence this weekend. When thinking about that, it isdifficult believe how many people don't think we should have the right to protect ourselves.
Hopefullythe unsupportive neighborwas watchingus and saw how responsible we truly are.
geoff
I watched channel 6's 9:00 news and channel 4's 10:00 news. It was depressing how many people have been victims of violence this weekend. When thinking about that, it isdifficult believe how many people don't think we should have the right to protect ourselves.
Hopefullythe unsupportive neighborwas watchingus and saw how responsible we truly are.
geoff
davegran
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Just watched "Ted's Take", a commentary on Fox6 by a guy who was totally supportive and accurate about what we were doing today.
I'd say the picnic was a big success and gained OC a lot of traction. Thanks to Gregg for hosting and everybody else for supporting the event. It was a very congenial group and my wife and I enjoyed ourselves even though we were probably on the far end of the age bell curve....
What's next?
Just watched "Ted's Take", a commentary on Fox6 by a guy who was totally supportive and accurate about what we were doing today.
I'd say the picnic was a big success and gained OC a lot of traction. Thanks to Gregg for hosting and everybody else for supporting the event. It was a very congenial group and my wife and I enjoyed ourselves even though we were probably on the far end of the age bell curve....
What's next?
J.Gleason
Banned
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Brass Magnet wrote:
silencer” means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing
the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of
parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling
or fabricating such a device, and any part intended only for use in
that assembly or fabrication.
(2) Whoever sells, delivers or possesses a firearm silencer is
guilty of a Class H felony.
(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to sales or deliveries of firearm
silencers to or possession of firearm silencers by any of the
following:
(a) Any peace officer who is acting in compliance with the
written policies of the officer’s department or agency. This paragraph
does not apply to any officer whose department or agency
does not have such a policy. Notwithstanding s. 939.22 (22), this
paragraph does not apply to a commission warden.
(b) Any armed forces or national guard personnel, while in the
line of duty.
(c) Any person who has complied with the licensing and registration
requirements under 26 USC 5801 to 5872.
Not trying to be a kill joy here but, I don't want to see anyone get a felony either.
If you have one of these in your possession and are not licensed you need to get rid of it before the feds come knockin.
Brass Magnet wrote:
941.298 Firearm silencers. (1) In this section, “firearm
silencer” means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing
the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of
parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling
or fabricating such a device, and any part intended only for use in
that assembly or fabrication.
(2) Whoever sells, delivers or possesses a firearm silencer is
guilty of a Class H felony.
(3) Subsection (2) does not apply to sales or deliveries of firearm
silencers to or possession of firearm silencers by any of the
following:
(a) Any peace officer who is acting in compliance with the
written policies of the officer’s department or agency. This paragraph
does not apply to any officer whose department or agency
does not have such a policy. Notwithstanding s. 939.22 (22), this
paragraph does not apply to a commission warden.
(b) Any armed forces or national guard personnel, while in the
line of duty.
(c) Any person who has complied with the licensing and registration
requirements under 26 USC 5801 to 5872.
Not trying to be a kill joy here but, I don't want to see anyone get a felony either.
If you have one of these in your possession and are not licensed you need to get rid of it before the feds come knockin.
NPH_1985
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J.Gleason wrote:
ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=258567 there's some better info
J.Gleason wrote:
As long as you go comply w/ the Nation Firearms Act (USC 5801 to 5872) you're fine.
ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=258567 there's some better info
J.Gleason
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Hmmm, I am not sure if I would just take someones word for this with out some form of legal verification. Not trying to be a party pooper here just want to be sure of the facts. That site you posted is just someone saying it is ok. I would rather see some statutes or Fed law saying it is ok if you know what I mean.
I just don't want anyone thinking they can just go out and get one of these things and carry it around with them. I realize there are certain requirements to be able to do so as listed under 26USC 5801 to 5872.
I guess the point I am trying to make here is for interested parties to take the right steps and precautions. We don't want any negative publicity now that is for sure.
Me personally, I don't care if someone hears my fire arm go off. If it goes off it is for a lawful reason. I have nothing to hide.
I guess I just want to concentrate on insuring our right to carry above everything else.
Hmmm, I am not sure if I would just take someones word for this with out some form of legal verification. Not trying to be a party pooper here just want to be sure of the facts. That site you posted is just someone saying it is ok. I would rather see some statutes or Fed law saying it is ok if you know what I mean.
I just don't want anyone thinking they can just go out and get one of these things and carry it around with them. I realize there are certain requirements to be able to do so as listed under 26USC 5801 to 5872.
I guess the point I am trying to make here is for interested parties to take the right steps and precautions. We don't want any negative publicity now that is for sure.
Me personally, I don't care if someone hears my fire arm go off. If it goes off it is for a lawful reason. I have nothing to hide.
I guess I just want to concentrate on insuring our right to carry above everything else.
Nutczak
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J.Gleason wrote:
With the proper paperwork, and tax fee's. it is legal for a private Wi citizen to own a suppressor, One of the larger companies that manufacturs them is in Chippewa Falls WI. We can also own full-Auto weapons after filling out the application, getting it approved, and paying the proper fees. (fee's seem to be a recurring theme here)
J.Gleason wrote:
With the proper paperwork, and tax fee's. it is legal for a private Wi citizen to own a suppressor, One of the larger companies that manufacturs them is in Chippewa Falls WI. We can also own full-Auto weapons after filling out the application, getting it approved, and paying the proper fees. (fee's seem to be a recurring theme here)
Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
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Nutczak wrote:
And SBR's!
Yup, It is totally legal with the proper paperwork and background checks. The easiest way is to form a legal trust, then you can go around the Chief LEO signature that is requried and be able to transfer it legally if you were to kick the bucket. The fee is a one time $250 tax stamp if I remember correctly.
Remember, this is regulated under the commerce clause, therefore it is the "transfering" of the firearm (suppressor), that the feds are dealing with.
I beleive the form you need to fill out is ATF form 4 http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f53204.pdf
In any case I know a few people that have done this, most of them went the trust route.
And I do agree that concentrating on our right to carry; at this time, is the best.
Nutczak wrote:
And SBR's!
Yup, It is totally legal with the proper paperwork and background checks. The easiest way is to form a legal trust, then you can go around the Chief LEO signature that is requried and be able to transfer it legally if you were to kick the bucket. The fee is a one time $250 tax stamp if I remember correctly.
Remember, this is regulated under the commerce clause, therefore it is the "transfering" of the firearm (suppressor), that the feds are dealing with.
I beleive the form you need to fill out is ATF form 4 http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f53204.pdf
In any case I know a few people that have done this, most of them went the trust route.
And I do agree that concentrating on our right to carry; at this time, is the best.
J.Gleason
Banned
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Well, I guess we learn something new every day don't we.
But just a thought. What is the actual need for a suppressor?
And what exactly is this trust anyway?
Well, I guess we learn something new every day don't we.
But just a thought. What is the actual need for a suppressor?
And what exactly is this trust anyway?
Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
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J.Gleason wrote:
A supressor cuts down on the need for ear protection, doesn't bother your neighbors, reduces recoil like a muzzle break,and it's cool. I believe that in New Zealand, hunters are actually required to have one so as not to bother their neighbors while hunting.
You can set up a legal trust, with a board of trusties (you and your family) a benificiary, and you the executor. Although there are some online forms you can fill out, it's best to have a lawyer set it up for you. It gets around CLEO signoff,doesn't cost too much, and your NFA goodies don't need to be destroyed or confiscated if you die, they can go to the benificiary as long as that person is legally allowed to posses them.
J.Gleason wrote:
A supressor cuts down on the need for ear protection, doesn't bother your neighbors, reduces recoil like a muzzle break,and it's cool. I believe that in New Zealand, hunters are actually required to have one so as not to bother their neighbors while hunting.
You can set up a legal trust, with a board of trusties (you and your family) a benificiary, and you the executor. Although there are some online forms you can fill out, it's best to have a lawyer set it up for you. It gets around CLEO signoff,doesn't cost too much, and your NFA goodies don't need to be destroyed or confiscated if you die, they can go to the benificiary as long as that person is legally allowed to posses them.