Just remember if the county has turned over the operation of the rec center to a third party then, yes they can ban weapons - Think about the stadiums in Seattle, same issue.
This is what I was referring to.........Sorry, the Stadiums are leased to the third parties.
Unless you have criminal intent, loitering laws can't really be enforced either. I am not sure what Washington state veiws on this are but the supreme court ruled against loitering laws of Chicago in 1999. So standing around openly carrying isn't illegal.gotta love how the "No loitering" is on the sign right next to the firearm warning. So, even if preemption applies, they just roust you out for loitering.
Damn hippies anyway...
I don't know Washington statutes or case law, but it's a general legal principle that the lessor can't transfer rights they don't have. If a government doesn't have the authority to ban firearms, neither do their lessees.Just remember if the county has turned over the operation of the rec center to a third party then, yes they can ban weapons - Think about the stadiums in Seattle, same issue.
If the USSC said that, then it applies to Washington State.bugly wrote:Unless you have criminal intent, loitering laws can't really be enforced either. I am not sure what Washington state veiws on this are but the supreme court ruled against loitering laws of Chicago in 1999. So standing around openly carrying isn't illegal.gotta love how the "No loitering" is on the sign right next to the firearm warning. So, even if preemption applies, they just roust you out for loitering.
Damn hippies anyway...
Too bad this individual is only Super of Parks and Ops. He seems like he has his stuff together and should be much higher in County Government.Situation seems to be resolved in our favor:
Hi John:
John you are correct the sign is wrong so I have asked the Sprinker Manager to have someone either remove or cover over the language so that we will be in compliance with the RCW. About a year and half ago we changed or covered over all the other rules signs in our Parks System but we must have missed these at Sprinker Rec. Center. Anyway Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Kent Baskett
Superintendent of Parks & Operations