Pursuing AB69, Castle Doctrine

[BROKENSPROKET]

Privilege to self defense? We have, "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose."

"the 'Privilege' of self-defense" was language in AB69, AB69-ASA1, AB69-ASA2.

Word from some legislators and staffers reported that is was going to be changed to "the 'right' of self-defense" but that did not happen. In AB69-ASA3 is was just stripped down to "self-defense"

That language is only on the bill itself, it does not transfer into the statutes, so the title of the bill has no final conseqeutial impact. I don't like the fact that this bill did not reflect that is in our RIGHT to self-defense. I really don't. I doubt that Stand Your Ground will be included this time through. Sometime in the future, when 'Stand Your Ground' legislation is introduced, I pray the title of the bill will be The Right of Self-Defense.

 

[protias]

"the 'Privilege' of self-defense" was language in AB69, AB69-ASA1, AB69-ASA2.

Word from some legislators and staffers reported that is was going to be changed to "the 'right' of self-defense" but that did not happen. In AB69-ASA3 is was just stripped down to "self-defense"

That language is only on the bill itself, it does not transfer into the statutes, so the title of the bill has no final conseqeutial impact. I don't like the fact that this bill did not reflect that is in our RIGHT to self-defense. I really don't. I doubt that Stand Your Ground will be included this time through. Sometime in the future, when 'Stand Your Ground' legislation is introduced, I pray the title of the bill will be The Right of Self-Defense.

Did they make any changes since the last time?

 

[BROKENSPROKET]

Did they make any changes since the last time?

No, its still AB69-ASA3 which was introduced over a month ago.

 

[protias]

No, its still AB69-ASA3 which was introduced over a month ago.

Sold short again!

 

[springfield 1911]

State Bar of Wisconsin - Statement Opposing the Castle Bill
http://www.wisbar.org/AM/Template.c...sideTrack/contentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=105635

 

[Outdoorsman1]

Up For Debate Today...???

In a different thread on a diiferent subject I posted about a conversation I had last night with my Rep. Samantha Kerkman. During our discussion I asked about the Castle Doctine Bill and Stand Your Ground addition to the Bill and I understood her to say that the Castle Doctrine Bill will be debated TODAY. And someyhing about they are looking at a word change regarding / addressing a self denfence shooting in a home after the BG has realized the error of his ways and has surrendered to the home owwner ????? (my words paraphrasing her words)...

Any other verification or knowledge of the debate being today or the change in wording...????

She also felt that "Stand Your Ground" will not be included in the current Bill.

Post # 53...

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?94770-AB-246-introduced/page3

Outdoorsman1

 

[bmwguy11]

Correct it was supposed to be debated today. But it appears to have disappeared from the schedule...

 

[BROKENSPROKET]

Correct it was supposed to be debated today. But it appears to have disappeared from the schedule...

It was still on the schedule when I went to bed last night, but right now the Legis. website keeps going down and is not up right now to check.

 

[bmwguy11]

Just got this from my republican senator's staff:



It just crossed my radar that the Castle Doctrine bill is being taken up today by the Assembly Judiciary Committee.

Glenn (senator grothmann) will be on Vicki McKenna's Show today at 11:30 a.m. to discuss a new bill he is working on. - http://www.newstalk1130.com/mediaplayer/

Glenn will also be on Vicki's Madison today at 4 p.m. also - http://www.wiba.com/pages/vicki.html


Edit: The new bill is in regards to counteracting senator lena taylor's BS about boycotting wisconsin businesses.

 

[bmwguy11]

Crappy... wiseye does not appear to be covering the assembly judiciary meeting today.

 

[BROKENSPROKET]

Crappy... wiseye does not appear to be covering the assembly judiciary meeting today.

I share your sad face. I got a Wiseye newsfeed post on FB saying that it is being taped and will be on Wiseye later.

 

[bmwguy11]

http://wiseye.com/Programming/VideoArchive/ArchiveList.aspx?cm=202

Start about 1 hour and 18 minutes into the video to see the part about AB69.

 

[Outdoorsman1]

So for those of us that do not watch (have) television, any updates on the debate..????

Outdoorsman1

 

[bmwguy11]

So for those of us that do not watch (have) television, any updates on the debate..????

Outdoorsman1

The link I gave was to the video on the internet. Not a live feed.

Not much to report anyways.

 

[paul@paul-fisher.com]

The link I gave was to the video on the internet. Not a live feed.

Not much to report anyways.

Was it a public hearing or was a vote taken?

 

[Outdoorsman1]

The link I gave was to the video on the internet. Not a live feed.

Not much to report anyways.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that my computer is messed up and I have no audio (sound)... So even if your link was to a video on the internet, regretfully, without audio, an internet video does me no good either...

Outdoorsman1

PS: I suppose one of these days I should get my computer fixed....

 

[bmwguy11]

It was just the committee voting on substitute amendments. First one, some BS by a democrat, was voted down. Second one was simply some verbage fixing, which was adopted.

I started a new thread since this one is a bit "long winded" since it was started. The bill goes before the assembly now.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ng-before-assembly-next&p=1620031#post1620031

 

[Outdoorsman1]

Thank you...

Outdoorsman1