Post your TX Open Carry experiences here!

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

CC outdoors and take your coat off once inside - that's why all of the fasteners are in the front.

That's what they put zippers in for one would have never guessed:banana:

 

[apjonas]

Don't Be Arrogant

First of all, the paragraph is your friend. Use it.

This was a Wal*Mart that sells alcohol, right?

I told her that she has no right to check permits of open carriers unless she was l.e.o. and then she needed an r.a.s...

She certainly has the right to ask to see your permit and eject you should you refuse to comply.

I said well that may possible get you a charge of impersonating an officer, that is a felony

Oh, please. This statement is silly. Unless you are so dense that you think a small female wearing a blue Wal*Mart smock is a LEO.

,also corperate wallmart policy allows what the state allows I have the number do you want it ,but if you deny me my legal right to carry you may also be in trouble with another new tx law ...

There is no general right to carry on private property. Texas requires a permit to carry in a business that sells alcohol for off-premise consumption. Allowing an non-licensee to carry could cost the business its liquor license. Since Wal*Mart is following state law, by your standard you don’t have a valid complaint.

I believe but not sure the first time is $1500 and the second one I think is $10,000 but not certain on this. i stated that i didn't see any 30.06 or 30.07

Where did you see a reference to $1500 or $10,000? Or did you just make that up to try and intimidate the employee?

A 30.06 sign relates only to concealed carry and thus would not have been relevant in this case.

In any event, notice by somebody with apparent authority negates the need for any sign. Don’t be such a drama queen. You were not “accosted,” you were addressed in a polite manner.

A sure way to see more 30.07 signs is to act like a jerk when openly carrying. Give it some thought.

Happy New Years Everybody . This now being 2016 we now have open carry in Texas ...yaaaahhhooooo...ok I would like to start this as the new thread of o-carrying experiences ...new year = new thread.Do I have the record? left down town ft worth shortly after turn of the year , went to waffle house and ate an entire double h-browns,two eggs ,toast ,glass of oj off the five dollar menu and hee hawed with some customers all while open carrying without incident.went to wallmart in Irving off of 183 gathered sausage, onion and when getting the banana's at 03:58 am ,little miss Walmart and the biggest male employee that was available came all the way from the midsection of the cash register isle to check my permit status, she was very nervous to where she kept dropping the few things she had in her hands, and her help just buzzed around on the other side of the fruits. I told her that she has no right to check permits of open carriers unless she was l.e.o. and then she needed an r.a.s... she said that she was told to do it and didn't really want to . I said well that may possible get you a charge of impersonating an officer, that is a felony ,also corperate wallmart policy allows what the state allows I have the number do you want it ,but if you deny me my legal right to carry you may also be in trouble with another new tx law ...I believe but not sure the first time is $1500 and the second one I think is $10,000 but not certain on this. i stated that i didn't see any 30.06 or 30.07 sign on the entrance she said there is one on the other side but it was behind some thing to where you can't really see it ,I said maybe there is one on the another side but not on the entrance I came in . ok then there may possible be another hit for improper signage , can I get you a cart so the you don't have to keep picking up the things that you keep dropping. now the cops are being called and I hear the guy say they couldn't send anyone unless I was being a problem because they don't really know what the law is also...little miss Walmart didn't have a name tag but kept telling me to just keep shopping anyway . a little open carry meet could help this store, so I think . like I mentioned earlier this started happened at 3:58 am any body else get accosted before me?well lets hear it.....update I have been back several times and no other contacts were made ....really it seems to me that texas has been handling o-carry very well

 

[qednick]

Decided to swing by Bass Pro at the Rim (I-10 @ 1604) after lunch. I didn't get asked for my license OTW in and nobody raised an eyebrow or said a word. There were two checkouts open. I got stuck behind some guy who's credit card wouldn't read. I did notice everybody else was going to the other checkout though. Not sure if they could've even realized there was a card read problem or if they just felt more comfortable not standing in line behind me.

 

[solus]

Decided to swing by Bass Pro at the Rim (I-10 @ 1604) after lunch. I didn't get asked for my license OTW in and nobody raised an eyebrow or said a word. There were two checkouts open. I got stuck behind some guy who's credit card wouldn't read. I did notice everybody else was going to the other checkout though. Not sure if they could've even realized there was a card read problem or if they just felt more comfortable not standing in line behind me.

sumthuth bout deodorant fail in the lone star state me thinks ~ this is the SECOND story about folk backing up from OCers...

guess the excitement of carrying ur shooting peace makes you forget the hygiene essentials, eh?

can't be the firearm...mine don't stink...ask me

ipse

 

[qednick]

sumthuth bout deodorant fail in the lone star state me thinks ~ this is the SECOND story about folk backing up from OCers...

guess the excitement of carrying ur shooting peace makes you forget the hygiene essentials, eh?

can't be the firearm...mine don't stink...ask me

ipse

Wasn't the green van with square wheels supposed to have picked you up 30 minutes ago?

 

[solus]

Wasn't the green van with square wheels supposed to have picked you up 30 minutes ago?

nawlll they sent all the starched jackets to texas

oh and the sq'd wheel vans are in baltimore transporting citizens to jail.

ipse

 

[qednick]

guess the excitement of carrying ur shooting peace makes you forget the hygiene essentials, eh?

Well we don't all get a sponge bath 3 times a day like you do

Besides, I was checking out with a few boxes of ammo. Maybe the site of me OC with boxes of ammo in hand was enough to deter them from standing behind me rather than my substandard deodorant.

 

[BB62]

<wall of text>

First of all, the paragraph is your friend. Use it. ...

... A sure way to see more 30.07 signs is to act like a jerk when openly carrying. Give it some thought.

I decided it wasn't worth my while to try and decipher the wall of text (something the OP could have easily done by editing it), but to the OP:

Listen to the man when he says "A sure way to see more 30.07 signs is to act like a jerk when openly carrying. Give it some thought."

 

[nonameisgood]

I would think that the best place to be would be right behind the guy with a gun and plenty of ammo


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[solus]

Well we don't all get a sponge bath 3 times a day like you do

Besides, I was checking out with a few boxes of ammo. Maybe the site of me OC with boxes of ammo in hand was enough to deter them from standing behind me rather than my substandard deodorant.

you should see the one holding the sponge...:uhoh:

ipse

 

[MAC702]

I would think that the best place to be would be right behind the guy with a gun and plenty of ammo

What if I can't tell if he uses the same ammo as I do?

 

[nobama]

Decided to swing by Bass Pro at the Rim (I-10 @ 1604) after lunch. I didn't get asked for my license OTW in and nobody raised an eyebrow or said a word. There were two checkouts open. I got stuck behind some guy who's credit card wouldn't read. I did notice everybody else was going to the other checkout though. Not sure if they could've even realized there was a card read problem or if they just felt more comfortable not standing in line behind me.

I would bet it was the card. Yea, I moved over 4ft so I wouldnt get shot, doesnt sound very likely to me, but sheeple are stupid in so many ways, I wouldnt be surprised.

 

[rushcreek2]

I'm into my 20th year now of holding a Texas CHL. 8 years of holding a Colorado CHP since officially registering as a Colorado resident.

Something I have noticed over the years that might be worth passing along to both Coloradoans and Texans now that licensed OPEN carry is lawful in Texas-

IWB ( inside waistband ) holstering provides a very practical method of navigating through the public square.

My carry style can be as relatively notorious...or...as relatively discreet ...as I wish with very little adjustment in my presentation.

This is a very comfortable zone for me between display - and concealment ...AT MY DISCRETION.

 

[Grapeshot]

--snipped--...mine don't stink...ask me

I've heard it said, that a fox doesn't smell his.

 

[nonameisgood]

Floyd's barbershop for a haircut, then Exxon for gas and the winning ticket. Dinner at Pho Que Huong and then picked up dessert at Ida Claire. Still no issues, comments, or signs.


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[Turbod'1]

My stuff in BOLD. Disclosure: I moved from Nevada to Texas for Military reasons and as such, I'm learning too.

Bushwacker's in Underline

apjonas in Italics

First of all, the paragraph is your friend. Use it.

Agreed.

This was a Wal*Mart that sells alcohol, right?

What is your point? Are you thinking of the "51%" sign and sorta equated it to the 30.07 sign? By Law, they mean different things...

I told her that she has no right to check permits of open carriers unless she was l.e.o. and then she needed an r.a.s...

She certainly has the right to ask to see your permit and eject you should you refuse to comply.

He wasn't buying cigarettes, beer, guns or (obviously) hard liquor [we know this because Wal*Mart CAN'T sell liquor in Texas!] and was 'detained' by a civilian for the brazen act of breaking NO Law --and asked for his 'papers'.

By your later logic (see below), ANYONE working there is instantly an "Authority" capable of speaking for the entire company. That said, if that's the companies policy: POST ALL NECESSARY SIGNS, as dictated BY LAW, and have a MANAGER simply ask them to leave. Most likely they'll try to make their point while leaving yet --the business itself will be left with a shopping cart full of [unsold] goods needing restocked/spoiled/thawed, no money and a future non-customer.

I said well that may possible get you a charge of impersonating an officer, that is a felony

Oh, please. This statement is silly. Unless you are so dense that you think a small female wearing a blue Wal*Mart smock is a LEO.

Can't speak for Texas, yet in Nevada there IS a State Code that addresses the matter of someone approaching you under the "Color of the Law", which may apply here as well in that: a citizen cannot ask another citizen for ID arbitrarily. The Law must somehow factor in. Given that they lacked the proper signage... you do the math.

,also corperate wallmart policy allows what the state allows I have the number do you want it ,but if you deny me my legal right to carry you may also be in trouble with another new tx law ...

There is no general right to carry on private property. Texas requires a permit to carry in a business that sells alcohol for off-premise consumption. Allowing an non-licensee to carry could cost the business its liquor license. Since Wal*Mart is following state law, by your standard you don’t have a valid complaint.

Following State Law is my litmus test. Texas required (until 01/01/2016) a License to carry concealed OR a long gun (without license!) --Now it allows for the LICENSED carry that is open. All the same, if a business DOESN'T like it, they don't create the rule of Law but the Law gave them the Right to tell them to go away. While I've never been 'trespassed' for OC, how many stories can you relate to us that tell a different story?


In any event, notice by somebody with apparent authority negates the need for any sign. Don’t be such a drama queen. You were not “accosted,” you were addressed in a polite manner.

"Apparent authority", you say? "Addressed", you say? "negates the need for any sign", you say? That last one is pretty telling as to where you stand between Lawful and Authoritarian. There ARE ACTUAL LAWS regarding those signs.

Who is the REAL "drama queen" here?

A sure way to see more 30.07 signs is to act like a jerk when openly carrying. Give it some thought.

I'd be inclined to address the harassment of the store Manager's personal policy, as they set the tone: reacting to a person breaking no laws by bringing the largest guy they could find [on their payroll] to act as muscle for the intent of both; "We hired you because you're both big and stupid." and that "I'm the Boss and I'M RIGHT".

30.07 basically TELLS you that 'You're not welcome here', still, is it being a jerk or standing up for ones Constitutional Rights? Many people, especially HERE on this forum, hate/d the idea of open carry of long guns by Texans (when that was all we were 'allowed') and we were mocked... yet, despite all the videos you'll see portraying them as idiots and reckless... they helped make this happen. So the way I see it, +apjonas (does the AP stand for the Associated Press? That would be interesting as I quoted you above!), you're simply here to cast doubt and dispersion on a Right you so dearly despise.

Please let me know if I've mishandled this.

 

[qednick]

Floyd's barbershop for a haircut, then Exxon for gas and the winning ticket. Dinner at Pho Que Huong and then picked up dessert at Ida Claire. Still no issues, comments, or signs.


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Great stuff! Errrm, except...I actually have the winning ticket

 

[1245A Defender]

Well,,,

Great stuff! Errrm, except...I actually have the winning ticket

I had the winning numbers last Saturday,,, but
I Forgot to buy my ticket...

Oh well,,, it was Only 995 mil...

 

[Bucko]

Do you carry an shoulder rig like mine?

Let me get this thread back on topic....

Decided to change it up and carry in the shoulder holster today.

First stop was a convenience store to buy a few Powerball tickets (I know, I know but it's 1.3 billion man!). The clerk was talking to what I assumed was a friend of his at the counter and then just both stopped talking and sort of stared at me. I went about my business and as I was leaving I noticed a small gunbuster sign on the door and little type saying "no open carry." Whoops, I was day dreaming about winning all that money and I let my situational awareness down. Looked around at the front of the store from my car at all the various advertisement signs and crap they had in the window and about 15-20ft from the left of the entrance was a 30.07 sign in the corner. Whoops again, but it was far enough away from the entrance that any person could have easily not seen it. Clerk didn't mention it. Either way I won't be going back there again.

Randalls:
Grabbed an over-priced coffee and did some grocery shopping. I don't think anyone even noticed I was carrying.

Do you carry a shoulder rig like mine?

 

[Felons for Open Carry]

Point is. Asking for CHL is a gray area morally but clear in legal standing. I can ask you for a drivers license by approaching you. You can refuse me and tell me off. Or not. Basically, one would break NO law by asking or even demanding. Similarly, one would break no law by refusing to a person who is clearly not a law enforcement agent. Thus, legality of it is very clear. Anyone can ask or demand CHL from you, with or without obvious reason, and you can refuse them, and all of you will be within your legal rights. However, if such a request is in good taste, it is up to the actors in a particular setting.

Another point. While you are on a private property, anyone who works there can give you a verbal notice to leave (if you are OCing). You can claim they don't directly represent the owner, but you'll be gambling with arrest and charges of misdemeanor A. On the other hand, whoever would give you the notice to leave gambles nothing on their end.

Summation. While a walmart employee can ask you for CHL, you can refuse. That walmart employee can issue a verbal notice to leave the private property while OCing. You may refuse and ignore the given notice, but then be under a chance of arrest and prosecution for trespassing. Thus, refusing to show CHL is within your rights, and to ask you to leave is within that employee rights. What ya gonna do, besides not liking it? Find a middle ground, perhaps?!?