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Police Department dragging their feet on returning guns

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Hello everyone. I'd like to get some opinions on a situation I am currently going through. My late family member had passed away without a will, and his firearms are part of his estate that is being executed by another family member. A situation arose at our household between two family members (neither of them are the executor or really linked to my late family member's firearms, they simply lived here) and the police were called by one of the two parties. The police arrive and the situation was resolved. One of the two family members has since moved out of the house

Now, the firearms in question had nothing to do with the incident, and were securely stored in the late family member's safe. Someone mentioned the fact that there are firearms in the house to the police and they asked if we wanted them (the police) to take them for safe keeping while the two family member's "cooled off". The executor (again not one of the two family members who fought) agreed :banghead: and the police took them to the police station. I wasn't living here at the time or I would have definitely ended that talk right off the bat.

Fast forward a couple months when the executor went down to the local PD to inquire about getting the firearms back. The desk sergeant asked us if the firearms were siezed to which we replied that they were given voluntarily for safe keeping. They told us that we would need to write a letter to the chief requesting that the firearms be returned to us. We wrote a letter and brought it down to the PD but never received a reply. We wen't down again and were told that since the executor doesn't have a pistol permit, that it would be better to transfer the firearms from our late family member to one of our family members who has their CT Pistol Permit (this family member is again un-involved in the situation that started this whole mess.)

The executor filed a transfer and we notified the police department. It took a little over a month for the firearms to appear as registered to our living family member according to the police officer handling the case. We were told we needed to write another letter to the chief as the first one was never received apparently. We wrote another letter and submitted it. We were then told that the serial numbers did not appear on the registry so they had to run a "federal gun trace" on the guns (the officer's words). The gun trace conversation was held a month ago and we still have not gotten any word back. The family member who the firearms are registered to has been trying to reach the chief, and left a message with his secretary, but still nothing.

I would like to get input from the fine folks here about what they think about the whole situation and what they would do from here.

TL,DR: Gave police our guns, they wont give em back.
 
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Grapeshot

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Consult a good firearms attorney in your state. An initial consultation is generally w/o cost and he/she can explain your options with more authority.
 

solus

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Consult a good firearms attorney in your state. An initial consultation is generally w/o cost and he/she can explain your options with more authority.
minor correction is in order...have the executor follow through with the attorney as you have no standing whatsoever...

ipse
 
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Great advice, and good point. Now, to be clear, the executor technically is no longer the "registered owner", since the executor transferred the firearms over to our family member with the permit, so it would seem more pertinent that he be the one to speak to an attorney.
 

BB62

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Hello everyone. I'd like to get some opinions on a situation I am currently going through. My late family member had passed away without a will, and his firearms are part of his estate that is being executed by another family member. A situation arose at our household between two family members (neither of them are the executor or really linked to my late family member's firearms, they simply lived here) and the police were called by one of the two parties. The police arrive and the situation was resolved. One of the two family members has since moved out of the house...
I've given a link to this thread to my friend Michael Picard from CT - a strident rights activist.

He and/or his legal counsel *may* offer some input, and I'm vouching for him if he contacts you.
 

davidmcbeth

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Sec. 53a-21. Use of physical force in defense of property. A person is justified in using reasonable physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent an attempt by such other person to commit larceny or criminal mischief involving property, or when and to the extent he reasonably believes such to be necessary to regain property which he reasonably believes to have been acquired by larceny within a reasonable time prior to the use of such force; but he may use deadly physical force under such circumstances only in defense of person as prescribed in section 53a-19.


I don't think applies ... but if you gave it to them and now demand it back then it may apply?

Don't talk to police .. talk (ie write and then followup in person [and record the meeting~in CT you can record a face to face conversation w/o telling the other party] with the town attny ..... sounds like a small claims case may be an option too...

Right now, I think a 42 usc 1983 case may also be an option -- you have the right to practice with your GATs.
 

davidmcbeth

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I've given a link to this thread to my friend Michael Picard from CT - a strident rights activist.

He and/or his legal counsel *may* offer some input, and I'm vouching for him if he contacts you.
Mike has some vids posted on youtube .. one of late is interesting as it shows the cops speaking of how many guns that the citizens own and then promptly start an illegal search of vehicles to find them.
 

solus

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Great advice, and good point. Now, to be clear, the executor technically is no longer the "registered owner", since the executor transferred the firearms over to our family member with the permit, so it would seem more pertinent that he be the one to speak to an attorney.
of course, however by your tale, perhaps the paper trail was improperly accomplished, if 1) doesnt seem official notification was done by certified/registered delivery; 2) there could be a discrepancy with the firearm(s) s/n on documentation; 3) this is being done in person, f-f, with different nice lower level LEs without benefit of any record of he said/you said...to officially substantiate anything being done; 4) let me guess, the latest letter to the chief wasnt sent certified/registered either; 5) nobody has set up an appointment to personally visit the chief or their immedate underling!

glad you feel executor's job is finished....last i knew, until the decedant's property was in the right hands per the decedent's final wishes, the task and property still belonged to the decentant's official representative ~ the executor! if they screwed up documentation, they need to fix it dont they?

glad i am not providing legal advice...

best of luck with your quest for the grail...

ipse
 

solus

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That is why state level organizations exist.

http://ctcarry.com
so your organization is going to file a lawsuit against the local PD on behalf of the OP...

i am extremely hearten to hear about such singular generosity...

or being mildly cynical....

this was a blatantly gratuitous plug, tho kudos since it was done without a gofundme promotion!

so which existance do you wish to pursue?

ipse
 

countryclubjoe

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Have you attorney file a " writ of replevin" at the local court, or you could do it yourself Pro SE...

My .02
 
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