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People who think they have the right to ain at repo men

AbNo

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Pace wrote:
"Deadly force to protect property."

How sad that we would ever consider property more important than a human life. Shows a complete degradation of ethical values, that robbery should equal death. I can understand it "legally" I can't understand it ethically.
Others devalue their own lives when they take from and harm good people.

Think about that for a little.
 

Pace

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Want to get into a religious doctrine debate, last time I checked, it was doctrine that the laws of the old testament do not apply. It's why Jesus said, in the case of the stoning, "he who has no sin, cast the first stone." The idea was that forgiveness was the new doctrine.

In my spare time in College, I also got a Master of Divinity. I can read in Aramaic, Hebrew. I know this passage inside and out, and more importantly the part that is missing that you can find in old manuscripts!

""Certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith, fearing, I suppose, lest their wives should be given impunity in sinning, removed from their manuscripts the Lord's act of forgiveness toward the adulteress, as if he who had said, Sin no more, had granted permission to sin.""

I'm a Buddhist, with Christian leanings (long story) however.
 

rodbender

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Pace wrote:
Want to get into a religious doctrine debate, last time I checked, it was doctrine that the laws of the old testament do not apply. It's why Jesus said, in the case of the stoning, "he who has no sin, cast the first stone." The idea was that forgiveness was the new doctrine.

In my spare time in College, I also got a Master of Divinity. I can read in Aramaic, Hebrew. I know this passage inside and out, and more importantly the part that is missing that you can find in old manuscripts!

""Certain persons of little faith, or rather enemies of the true faith, fearing, I suppose, lest their wives should be given impunity in sinning, removed from their manuscripts the Lord's act of forgiveness toward the adulteress, as if he who had said, Sin no more, had granted permission to sin.""

I'm a Buddhist, with Christian leanings (long story) however.
I was simply stating where it came from.
 

stainless1911

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Im more than happy to hear peoples positions, especially about religion. Most peoples ways and core beleifs come from religion. There is real value in this, and to leave it out takes away from the whole picture.

You can learn about God now or later, its up to you, but there is no way around it.
 

Anthony_I_Am

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I suspect the Texas lethal force to protect property has it's roots in the cattle business. 100 years ago the cattle industry had connections and a lot of power in the state government, with a lot of special interest influence, sort of like the railroads. The cattlemans association still has sworn peace officers. A long time ago, a ranchers stock was his livelyhood. Stealing cattle was a serious offense, no different than robbing money from your wallet. I suspect the law and attitude just never changed.

Since cattle are "property" it's nearly impossible to justify that you can use deadly force to protect some property, but not other property, so the law was written to include any and all property.
 

Pinhead

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Cattle and horses. Horse thieves were usually strung up.

Horses = Cars

More so back then; your horse wasn't merely your transportation, he was also a really good friend.
 

Sheriff

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SavageOne wrote:
Sheriff,

Have you as a law enforcement officer ever heard of a thief posing as repo man? Not trying to start anything, honest question. Criminals all to often are protrayed as dumb, but there are some pretty sharp scumbags out there.

No.I'm sure it happens somewhere, but I recall no local cases of this.
 
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