Lord Sega
Regular Member
I did search and did not see this already on OC.org. News article is dated 3 Feb 2014.
LINK to local news KATU
Not a lot of info, and the interweb doesn't have much more about the incident or any court actions / dismissal / plea bargain... nada.
Synopsis:
1) MWAG call for guy sitting in his car in the Oregon Zoo parking lot.
2) Police approach and take into custody without incident.
3) Car searched (unknown if with permission), two replica firearms, both BB (or maybe Airsoft) "replica" firearms, and a small amount of marijuana (under an ounce).
4) Charged with Disorderly Conduct in the 2nd degree, which is a Class B misdemeanor, and possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, which is a violation.
So... Oregon is OC (CC with CHL permission slip), the Oregon Zoo is within City of Portland so local ordinance of Unloaded OC applies unless you have a CHL.
Maybe the LEOs can justify approaching to check the guy out, IMO it would depend on how long sitting in his car, how much handling of the (thought to be) firearms, and his emotional state. Before I get jumped on, I could see certain behaviors that might indicate possible suicide, BUT it would be very specific and that's not in the article... was he sitting there for 5 minutes or 45 minutes instead on entering the Zoo (or the Forestry Center or the Children's Museum that are also there off of the parking lot), how was he handling the "firearm(s)" i.e. pointing at himself or others (LINK) (but if at others why wasn't he charged with that), is he red faced / crying / emotional? Things that might indicate thoughts of suicide that an approach and talk could clear up.
However, if no indications of suicide (or psychotic rage, etc), that should have been the end of the encounter by LEOs.
I don't see how they can apply the Disorderly Conduct (2nd deg) (LINK).
If the arrest is bogus, then the car search due to the arrest is out (assuming no consent), and the pot charge as well.
I'm thinking over-reach on the DC charge, or any charge.
I can't find anything beyond the news articles at the time of the incident, I would think that something would have happened in 2-1/2 months.
Anyone in Portland want to FOIA the reports (Multnomah County Jail) for details?
LINK to local news KATU
Not a lot of info, and the interweb doesn't have much more about the incident or any court actions / dismissal / plea bargain... nada.
Synopsis:
1) MWAG call for guy sitting in his car in the Oregon Zoo parking lot.
2) Police approach and take into custody without incident.
3) Car searched (unknown if with permission), two replica firearms, both BB (or maybe Airsoft) "replica" firearms, and a small amount of marijuana (under an ounce).
4) Charged with Disorderly Conduct in the 2nd degree, which is a Class B misdemeanor, and possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, which is a violation.
So... Oregon is OC (CC with CHL permission slip), the Oregon Zoo is within City of Portland so local ordinance of Unloaded OC applies unless you have a CHL.
Maybe the LEOs can justify approaching to check the guy out, IMO it would depend on how long sitting in his car, how much handling of the (thought to be) firearms, and his emotional state. Before I get jumped on, I could see certain behaviors that might indicate possible suicide, BUT it would be very specific and that's not in the article... was he sitting there for 5 minutes or 45 minutes instead on entering the Zoo (or the Forestry Center or the Children's Museum that are also there off of the parking lot), how was he handling the "firearm(s)" i.e. pointing at himself or others (LINK) (but if at others why wasn't he charged with that), is he red faced / crying / emotional? Things that might indicate thoughts of suicide that an approach and talk could clear up.
However, if no indications of suicide (or psychotic rage, etc), that should have been the end of the encounter by LEOs.
I don't see how they can apply the Disorderly Conduct (2nd deg) (LINK).
If the arrest is bogus, then the car search due to the arrest is out (assuming no consent), and the pot charge as well.
I'm thinking over-reach on the DC charge, or any charge.
I can't find anything beyond the news articles at the time of the incident, I would think that something would have happened in 2-1/2 months.
Anyone in Portland want to FOIA the reports (Multnomah County Jail) for details?