Nye County Holster Requirement

[DVC]

My real point was that the smug comments made by HankT ignore the Real World Facts(tm).

 

[wrightme]

Oh, yeah. The "THEY-DON'T-MAKE-A-RETENTION-HOLSTER-FOR-MY-SPECIFIC-GUN" problem.

A problem, to be sure. Solvable, to be sure.

But please, the benefits greatly outweigh the solution costs for those problems.

Let's face it, there are hundreds of thousands of OCers out there today who use retention holsters. And most of those are MANDATED.

Any of those guys complaining?

What, you mean cops?


No, the benefits don't outweigh the government intrusion where it has no business.

 

[HankT]

Now?

Ah, I'm with you.

Maybe the lad thought I was a LEO. Well I WAS a LEO, but that was several years ago. We didn't have a retention holster requirement back then.

They have a retention holster requirement now?

 

[FallonJeeper]

I'm not saying they have one now. You were talking about "hundreds of thousands of OCers out there today who use retention holsters. And most of those are MANDATED."

All I said was we didn't have one back then.

 

[wrightme]

They have a retention holster requirement now?

Maybe it would be of assistance if you simply said what you meant, instead of speaking in code.

What OC'ers are you speaking of where "there are hundreds of thousands of OCers out there today who use retention holsters. And most of those are MANDATED."?

Who are they, what mandates the retention holster?

No code-speak, just openness for once.

 

[DON`T TREAD ON ME]

Would be a good idea to have such a law. The vast majority of OCers today use retention holsters. The benefits are obvious and it's awfully hard for the pro-gun rights advocates to logically argue against the idea. Look for such laws to be enacted in the future.

I would favor a mandate for a retention holster for OC. Mucho benefits, little cost. No problem with 2A. Everybody wins.

Hank,

So would you be cool with getting your retention system "checked" or inspected for quality by some unknown officer of the law? while you are trying to take the wife to dinner? (remember the California "E" check)

Or running your holster through a DMV style proccess once a year, so someone who has never shot a firearm can issue your annual holster inspection papers, (AHI)

How about you have to use your weapon in self defense, and everything about the use of your weapon was valid.... except this little issue about your holster is showing some wear.

The last thing I believe we need is someone telling you and I how to dress, to me that is not a regulation. It is my right.

 

[Vegassteve]

Oh, yeah. The "THEY-DON'T-MAKE-A-RETENTION-HOLSTER-FOR-MY-SPECIFIC-GUN" problem.

A problem, to be sure. Solvable, to be sure.

But please, the benefits greatly outweigh the solution costs for those problems.

Let's face it, there are hundreds of thousands of OCers out there today who use retention holsters. And most of those are MANDATED.

Any of those guys complaining?

Got a cite to all those laws?

there is a website for people like you ad its run by the brady folks. Go there. Leave gun owners alone.

 

[FallonJeeper]

Got a cite to all those laws?

there is a website for people like you ad its run by the brady folks. Go there. Leave gun owners alone.

I agree Vegas Steve,
HankT has a quick answer for everything (similar posts on other threads), but never any substance to back it up.

 

[ManInBlack]

Would be a good idea to have such a law.

<pathetic and disgusting statism snipped>

I would favor a mandate for a retention holster for OC. Mucho benefits, little cost. No problem with 2A. Everybody wins.

Wow...another one who takes pleasure in ******* all over the Constitution.

There is more I would like to say to you, but I don't want to violate any forum rules.

 

[Aknazer]

Oh, yeah. The "THEY-DON'T-MAKE-A-RETENTION-HOLSTER-FOR-MY-SPECIFIC-GUN" problem.

A problem, to be sure. Solvable, to be sure.

But please, the benefits greatly outweigh the solution costs for those problems.

Let's face it, there are hundreds of thousands of OCers out there today who use retention holsters. And most of those are MANDATED.

Any of those guys complaining?

The only people who are currently "mandated" to have a retention holster are mandated because of their job and not a specific law. Oklahoma was looking at mandating a retention holster and potentially retention training to be able to OC, but luckily it looks like that was killed.

And honestly, we don't need more government intrusions into our personal lives. And that is exactly what this type of a law would be, a needless intrusion. And from there the government is going to want to do checks and ensure that people have "proper" holsters.

 

[KBCraig]

He just went through a CCW class in Nye county and was drinking some of the CCW kool-aid.

I think you've identified the source of his problem, right there.

For some people, gaining permission to do something that is illegal for the general public is like being inducted into a secret society of the special "only ones". They believe they've been imbued with a special secret knowledge, thus anything they spout about guns must be the truth.

Someone with that attitude might, for instance, be captain of his local neighborhood watch and pretend to be a real cop.

 

[28kfps]

However, the EAA Witness / Tanfoglio T95 is not on the list.

Sorry no help for your firearm, however that is why I said most, not all. A quality firearm for the money and easy interchangeable calibers allowing to practice with cheaper ammo. I guess not many use the Italian piece for every day carry. It would be cool to everyday carry it and have the occasional question come up as when I am out. What are you carrying, a Glock? Even as common as a Springfield XDM is most having no idea what it is. I like to see the looks after you said it is a Tanfoglio T95 10.

 

[DVC]

Sorry no help for your firearm, however that is why I said most, not all. A quality firearm for the money and easy interchangeable calibers allowing to practice with cheaper ammo. I guess not many use the Italian piece for every day carry. It would be cool to everyday carry it and have the occasional question come up as when I am out. What are you carrying, a Glock? Even as common as a Springfield XDM is most having no idea what it is. I like to see the looks after you said it is a Tanfoglio T95 10.

The T95 is an improved CZ75, sold here as the EAA Witness, and the only design to lure me away from the 1911 platform. It's not the "P" plastic model. To those who know nothing about pistols, it looks like a 1911. Those who know the 1911 often guess that it's a Beretta or Smith.

I went with the T95 because of cost -- under $1200 gets a "Match" model 10mm, plus top ends for .45 and for .22 and a whole second frame (useful when I'm teaching a lady to shoot).

The holster problem is the one fly in the ointment. There are some guys who have modified Serpas that were made for other pistols. I currently have to use a universal Yaqui slide for belt carry, and a Galco that was made for something else (I dunno what) that holds it pretty well.