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NRA or Grassroots: which one to join?

drew9

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Hey guys,

Just curious if any of you are members of either groups? Or both? I'm considering joining one or the other but not sure yet which one I will go with. My father-in-law is a life time NRA member, so I'm familiar with that, but hadn't heard of grassroots before that Golden Corral meet up.


Drew

PS. I accidentally posted this in some unknown thread.... :eek:
 

Glock19fan

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Grassroots is not bad, but instead of the NRA look into Gun Owners of America? I contribute to them monthly. I dont think that they have quite the influence that the NRA does but it is still a good organization to be a member of.
 

NC-Heel

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Both. NRA helps at a national level and GRNC helps at a State and Local level. Will cost you $45 a year for both or less if you pay for multiple years. NRA is worth it for the discounts and firearm insurance alone.
 

Uber_Olafsun

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The NRA leaves a bad taste for some because they seem to be for "hunters" and concealed carry. Granted they are the gorilla in the room. I think they need to unite with the grassroots more for 2A and tackle the issue as a whole. I renewed my VCDL membership last gun show but not NRA.
 

XD9mmFMJ

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The NRA is run by a bunch of commies. I know many of you haven't figured it out yet, because you are still under a spell, but these rats run all of their opposition. The best way to defeat your opposition is to BE YOUR OPPOSITION, and this is why we have the NRA. Don't believe me though. You'll see soon enough.
 

NC-Heel

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The NRA leaves a bad taste for some because they seem to be for "hunters" and concealed carry. Granted they are the gorilla in the room. I think they need to unite with the grassroots more for 2A and tackle the issue as a whole. I renewed my VCDL membership last gun show but not NRA.
Because that is the majority. For every open carry you see I bet there are 20 concealed carries you do not see. All of the NRA's big supporters are open carry type personalities.
 

cricketdad

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Hey guys,

Just curious if any of you are members of either groups? Or both? I'm considering joining one or the other but not sure yet which one I will go with. My father-in-law is a life time NRA member, so I'm familiar with that, but hadn't heard of grassroots before that Golden Corral meet up.


Drew

PS. I accidentally posted this in some unknown thread.... :eek:

I am partial to Grass Roots North Carolina. Having been involved in the gun rights movement for 15 or so years I know who has been doing the work in NC. The last piece of legislation to become law was HB650. The majority of it was written by GRNC. The next bill to be passed when the GA starts back up in May is HB111 dealing with restaurant carry. This was also written by GRNC.
Look here http://www.grnc.org/resources/grnc-accomplishments
 
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cricketdad

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Because that is the majority. For every open carry you see I bet there are 20 concealed carries you do not see. All of the NRA's big supporters are open carry type personalities.

I believe conceal carry is in the majority because more states allow it than open carry. Since I have been participating on this forum I have had a big change in attitude. I no longer worry about whether it covered or not.
 

ncwabbit

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from http://www.grnc.org/resources/grnc-accomplishments
GRNC was central to drafting and passing North Carolina’s concealed handgun law;
GRNC passed a clean concealed handgun reciprocity law which has captured 37 states (see below);
GRNC passed legislation enabling concealed handgun permit-holders to avoid redundant background checks when purchasing handguns, thereby circumventing sheriffs who restrict such permits;
GRNC recently passed omnibus gun bill HB 650, which includes

good heavens, why do we need the NC general assembly if GRNC is passing the laws as stated on their website?

◦Made emergency concealed handgun permits available to domestic violence victims;

having professionally dealt w/dv participants - perpetrator and victim, i am concerned about giving either party access to a firearm w/o completion of appropriate anger management counseling.

wabbit
 
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cricketdad

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from http://www.grnc.org/resources/grnc-accomplishments
GRNC was central to drafting and passing North Carolina’s concealed handgun law;
GRNC passed a clean concealed handgun reciprocity law which has captured 37 states (see below);
GRNC passed legislation enabling concealed handgun permit-holders to avoid redundant background checks when purchasing handguns, thereby circumventing sheriffs who restrict such permits;
GRNC recently passed omnibus gun bill HB 650, which includes

good heavens, why do we need the NC general assembly if GRNC is passing the laws as stated on their website?

◦Made emergency concealed handgun permits available to domestic violence victims;

having professionally dealt w/dv participants - perpetrator and victim, i am concerned about giving either party access to a firearm w/o completion of appropriate anger management counseling.

wabbit

Your not baiting me. Your pissed at me because I won't tell you how we data mine.
 

D70inilm

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Anyone except the NRA

Grassroots rocks, hands down. GOA is great also. I quit the NRA when they endorsed a Democrat over a Republican Marine running for Congress.
 

1911 Enthusiast

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I'm a long time NRA member but they are organizationally too self serving to suit me. It just chafes my behind when the NRA tries to take credit for local initiatives which other organizations have conceived, championed and worked tireless hours to achieve. Plus, they many times refuse to work with or even acknowledge the grass roots organizations.

OTOH, I'll admit that the NRA has more name recognition than any other pro-2A group and they highlight national gun rights issues effectively. There's certainly a need for a group with a strategic mission, it's just that I don't respect the fear-mongering way the NRA conducts their business.

So, I much prefer to donate my time and money to pro-rights groups which lobby at the state level and concentrate on getting bills passed which have a direct impact on me personally.
 

ncwabbit

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surely you jest crickdad, however, to clarify my position since you woke that dog up....how the organization obtained the addresses of gun owners in the state doesn't concern me, but rather the protection and security of said data does...

my last post centers around the cite mentioned....as the GRNC website pointed out...apparently w/GRNC around passing all the firearm statutes why have a NC General Assembly ?

Also as i have publicly stated on this and other platforms...GRNC is a fine firearm advocate but requires someone to proof their public copy as it comes across as egotisical (GRNC was the only contributor!) and advertising comes across as the 'the boy who cried wolf' or 'doom and gloom' mentality if you do not contribute/volunteer!

as mentioned in the past... what is being done for our contributions today? a suggestion organizationally someone might brief those manning your booths as they do not have a objective clue on objective goals. what was done in the past they can articulate from rote memory. (to be fair every booth person was asked the exact same guestion and i got wonderful tales of past quests but nothing on future objectives needing conquering by the organization.)

wabbit

ps; already know that answer cricketdad...some in your org have loose tongues as i got the same response from several different folk. :uhoh:
 
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MAC702

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NRA first, and then the others as you can. The NRA is absolutely not perfect. Even an organization as powerful as they are can't do it all, so they pick their battles. Especially when it comes to open carry, they are often not picking some of the battles we want them to, but we cannot deny their effectiveness as a whole.

Keep in mind that the NRA is not just a lobby. In fact, that is not its first job. The NRA is about education, safety, and sports. Its ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) is run separately. Unfortunately, the ILA's battles often cause people to forsake the NRA as a whole, and this is, IMO, wrong.

That said, the NRA is America's oldest and largest civil rights organization. There's nothing wrong with being the gorilla in the room. But even gorillas can't do it all.

Also, I can't remember the last time I got a mailing asking for more money. I think a lot of non-members keep spreading that around as an excuse not to join, like junk mail is something they don't get from every other source on the planet anyway.
 

brutus1776

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if you look objectively, you'll notice that the NRA can probably accurately, throughout history, be called the largest gun CONTROL organization ever. the little things from supporting gun grabbers over uber pro gun politicians all the way down to supporting the brady measures and GCA'68, among other things. if you support 'hunting rights' and the law and order mentality of 'sensible' gun control and a compromising stance on gun rights, the NRA is for you.
if you are a no compromise sort of guy, you should check out GOA and/or JPFO.
 

Shimmer

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if you look objectively, you'll notice that the NRA can probably accurately, throughout history, be called the largest gun CONTROL organization ever. the little things from supporting gun grabbers over uber pro gun politicians all the way down to supporting the brady measures and GCA'68, among other things. if you support 'hunting rights' and the law and order mentality of 'sensible' gun control and a compromising stance on gun rights, the NRA is for you.
if you are a no compromise sort of guy, you should check out GOA and/or JPFO.

The GRNC has its faults, but those in it are quite dedicated and hard working. They keep up with current events, and have goals they plan to shoot for. The NRA does have political tout, but I dislike the manner in which they carry themselves of late. To a degree, I have no problem with some gun control. A Felon who acquired that felony through allowing anger to control his actions, and then shot a man, for example, should not be sold another gun. Past that, though, it gets complicated, and more gun control won't necessarily stop a criminal from acquiring a weapon.

My vote goes to the GRNC. I'll be happy for the help the NRA gives, but for the time being, I don't trust them enough to pay them.
 
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