new, lead-free hollow point looks....incredible?!

[mpguy]

I'm easy. Anything that feeds reliable through my chamber gets the call. 230gr pdx1 for everyday oc carry. 185gr critical defense for light concealment times. Example of such a day, would be at the ball field with the kids.

If I feel the need to wear my super tuck, 165gr federal hs gets the call. Little less weight, makes the biggest difference in comfort.

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[MAC702]

For those very few times when stopping power makes the difference in a self-defense shooting, it is done so by energy transfer, not wound channel. We don't care about the longer-term effects of the wound channel.

Give me a slow, fat, lead .45; copper jacket is optional.

Hollowpoints are great when you need them on a high velocity and small diameter bullet. But they do NOT need to be anything fancy, unless there is a pretty girl holding them in the advertisement.

 

[WalkingWolf]

So were you using Federal Hydra Shocks that are a hollow point bullet or were you using Glaser Safety Slug that is a frangible bullet made by Cor-bon.

Two different manufactures two different bullet styles.

It's been 20 years since I worked personal protection, but the bullets looked like a inverted wadcutter with a spire in the center. They were in 38 spl used in model 15 2 inch barrel. Regular duty rounds were 38 +P silver tips. Duty rounds for the model 39 were jacketed hollow points.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Most likely federal Hydra shocks they have developed using different shaped spires over the years in the middle of the hollow points to aid in expansion.

 

[DevinWKuska]

My question is are these even legal? I am continuing to search but I thought the feds banned fragmentation ordinance as it was inhumane to shoot a murderer with a bullet that could maim or some such...

 

[Felid`Maximus]

My question is are these even legal? I am continuing to search but I thought the feds banned fragmentation ordinance as it was inhumane to shoot a murderer with a bullet that could maim or some such...

There is no ban on fragmenting rounds on the federal level.

The military generally does not use expanding rounds, possibly due to the Hague convention that the U.S. government didn't actually sign. This may be what you are thinking of.

The round in question here looks okay but it seems that the petals may not penetrate deeply enough to be fight stoppers. What is that, 6 inches in gel? Subtract 4 inches for skin and each one only goes in 2 inches.