If there is a no gun sign on a bar and you don't drink, can you carry concealed?
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THIS^^^! +1 Also be very careful, some private business owners place tiny little signs/stickers that no one who is not looking would ever see. One local eatery placed their no weapons sign roughly 9 feet up on a wall near their liquor license near a greeters station where your attention will be focused on the greeters & not the wall behind them in a busy isle-way So keep your eyes open... as it is on you to know who the gunbusters are in AZ.
What place are you referring to, Costco?
What place are you referring to, Costco?
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Thanks Mac.Costco does not serve alcohol for consumption on the premises.
ARS 4-229 reads as follows
Arizona has passed “Permitless Carry.” That means anyone who can legally own/purchase a firearm and is
21 or older can carry it concealed without any type of permit/license. This new law becomes effective July
29, 2010. Those who wish to carry in Arizona without a permit/license from AZ or any other state can not
carry in the places listed in the “Places Off Limits Even With a Permit’ section below. Arizona did not
remove other restrictions in their law when they passed Permitless Carry. If you choose to carry without a
permit from Arizona or any other state you must also abide by the following restriction.
4-229. Licenses; Handguns; Posting of Notice
A. A person with a permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112 may carry a concealed handgun on the
premises of a licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits
the possession of weapons on the licensed premises. The sign shall conform to the following
requirements:
1. Be posted in a conspicuous location accessible to the general public and immediately adjacent to the
liquor license posted on the licensed premises.
2. Contain a pictogram that shows a firearm within a red circle and a diagonal red line across the firearm.
3. Contain the words, "no firearms allowed pursuant to A.R.S. section 4-229".
B. A person shall not carry a firearm on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer if the licensee has posted
the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section.
C. It is an affirmative defense to a violation of subsection B of this section if:
1. The person was not informed of the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section before the
violation.
2. Any one or more of the following apply:
(a) At the time of the violation the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section had fallen down.
(b) At the time of the violation the person was not a resident of this state.
(c) The licensee had posted the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section not more than thirty
days before the violation.
D. The department of liquor licenses and control shall prepare the signs required by this section and make
them available at no cost to licensees.
In other words, if you have a CCW permit, you can carry into an alcohol sales establishment. Otherwise, stay out. However, the establishment needs to have the proper sign posted. If a bar owner is not using the correct sign and just has a handwritten or printed note, leave the bar alone since they are obviously anti and want you to get in trouble for exercising your rights,
... From what I understand you are permitted to enter a business that sells/serves alcohol but cannot CONSUME it without a valid CCW permit...
Thanks Mac.
The yard house rest. in N. Scottsdale for the NBA height sign & no posted exterior door signs. Nice to meet you. How you doing? What's it like in your area? One thing about the net, it makes for poor human interaction/communication.
I don't remember this response, but I see it now that the thread got bumped. Yes, you are correct about the sometimes poor effect from the terseness of Internet postings. I probably do worse than most!
The Yard House' corporate (Darden Restaurants owns them and Red Lobster and some others) policy is to allow firearms possession to the extent allowed by law. I like the Yard House. Nay! I LOVE the Yard House.
Adding to the other comments....The major issue I was concerned about is the part of the law that has to do with retail outlets that sell/serve alcohol. From what I understand you are permitted to enter a business that sells/serves alcohol but cannot CONSUME it without a valid CCW permit.
That alone qualifies you for an Arizona permit.I'm a currently holder of a NV permit
Arizona's Restaurant Carry law definitely needs improving.Just to make sure, everything we've talked about has been for AZ. In NV, signs never have force of law. And there is no restriction against drinking while armed, with a limit on possession at 0.10% BAC.
I'm still not entirely sure if I want to get an AZ CCW permit but it's something I'm considering in the future. Getting an AZ permit will not really give me any additional coverage so I will most likely my NV permit valid. I may acquire a UT permit for some additional coverage but that's something I don't really need at this time.
In some cases you must have a permit CPL, CCW in your home state to get a Utah permit.
If you reside in a state that recognizes the validity of the Utah
CFP or has reciprocity with Utah, you must obtain a CFP or
CCW from your home state and submit a copy of it with your
application for a Utah permit. For a list of reciprocal states
visit: http://www.publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html
Residency will be determined by your state-issued
identification. If your state does not recognize the Utah
permit this does not apply.