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Neighborhood Watch Legalities.

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Tucker6900

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Without a license there are two things you are legally allowed to do. Observe. Report. Period. I ambin my local neighborhood watch and without the proper licensing, that is all we are allowed to do. Now, that does not prevent me or someone else from legal self defense, or the defense of others in the face of a felony, but that would be it.
 

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There was once noises outside my own home (a window knock at 1am). I called 9-1-1. The dispatcher asked if I had gone out to investigate the noises, I said, "no, I'm safe in my home and I'm armed, why would I step outside and become possibly involved in a confrontation?"


I'd tell you too think this same mentality. "Stay safe"
 

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To add to my previous post. Its also not a bad idea to contact your local law enforcement. Let them know you'll be doing the program. They may even be able to provide you with cell numbers of the officers on duty for more direct contact.
 

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Michigan is not a property state. you can't protect someones car radio.

Unfortunately.

Yes. It's unfortunate. If we could defend property, I'd do so to prevent .gov thugs from taking my money any giving it to "disabled" people who have no right to it!!!!!
 

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Much better a measure of our society then, to let them fend for themselves and die in the street. Well, I guess there are enough crickets to eat, at least for the summer months.

So which is it? Do you think I should be able to defend my property or not? You can't have it both ways.

If I want to GIVE someone my property, charity, then that is okay by me.
 

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I just got done speaking with a few of the other members of the neighborhood watch program. We have worked out what we are going to do. We have information on a possible address where the people responsible might stay. Not surprisingly, right here among us. We are going to have someone watch the possible address. When we see them in the act one of us is going to yell for them to to stop. The last time when someone else did this, they took off. If we see them retreat to this address, we will know where to send the police. Thanks for all the helpful advise.


Use caution, the bold above could be considered stalking unless you have a private investigators license.
 

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Yes. It's unfortunate. If we could defend property, I'd do so to prevent .gov thugs from taking my money any giving it to "disabled" people who have no right to it!!!!!

zing!!!

to the OP, maybe a video camera would be a good thing to carry to, maybe you can record them in the act?
 
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Yes. It's unfortunate. If we could defend property, I'd do so to prevent .gov thugs from taking my money any giving it to "disabled" people who have no right to it!!!!!

I think "corporate welfare", including the money taken under threat for subsidizing a company's "business model" is a much larger theft, both in size and effect. At least we agree on the gubment's thuggery.
 

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Why don't you complain as much about the tens to hundreds of billions a year we give away to countries, some of whom hate us vehemently, as you do about the .gov giving me enough to remain hopelessly poor?

Because those countries aren't posting here about how poor they are then turn around and buy $1000 guns.
 

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Because those countries aren't posting here about how poor they are then turn around and buy $1000 guns.

If I can do it without spending the .gov checks to do it, then it's nobodys business but mine, it is something that I have earned.

Change a waterpump for some guy parked on the side of the road in Pontiac in February with nothing but basic hand tools and a 30$ hand me down jack sometime. I did, and it had to be re done because the pump was faulty. Go do that and similar, pick up cans by the thousands and then get back with me on what guns I should have or not.
 

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If I can do it without spending the .gov checks to do it, then it's nobodys business but mine, it is something that I have earned.

Change a waterpump for some guy parked on the side of the road in Pontiac in February with nothing but basic hand tools and a 30$ hand me down jack sometime. I did, and it had to be re done because the pump was faulty. Go do that and similar, pick up cans by the thousands and then get back with me on what guns I should have or not.

This, in a nut shell, likely for the last 70 years or so, is what makes some folks blood boil. Many believe that individuals collecting disability (partial or full) while being able to perform such tasks, as you mentioned above, should be denied benefits. I don't always agree. What's easily over-looked in such a case it the totality of circumstances. Some folks just have a tendency to only look at the little picture.

In many cases, replacing water pumps can be a real PITA (physical challenge for some) especially on the side of the road. However, it's not a job position that you're expected to perform 8 hours per day, 7 days per week. Picking up cans, I suspect, is done in ones leisure with no quota or 24/7/365 involved.

Life is short and on this planet there's far more to be concerned with than a few million folks scamming the government for benefits, disability or otherwise. BTW, anyone know how much has been spent thus far for our involvement over in the sand box?
 

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This, in a nut shell, likely for the last 70 years or so, is what makes some folks blood boil. Many believe that individuals collecting disability (partial or full) while being able to perform such tasks, as you mentioned above, should be denied benefits. I don't always agree. What's easily over-looked in such a case it the totality of circumstances. Some folks just have a tendency to only look at the little picture.

In many cases, replacing water pumps can be a real PITA (physical challenge for some) especially on the side of the road. However, it's not a job position that you're expected to perform 8 hours per day, 7 days per week. Picking up cans, I suspect, is done in ones leisure with no quota or 24/7/365 involved.

Life is short and on this planet there's far more to be concerned with than a few million folks scamming the government for benefits, disability or otherwise. BTW, anyone know how much has been spent thus far for our involvement over in the sand box?

The human and economic costs of these wars will continue for decades, some costs not peaking until mid-century. Many of the wars’ costs are invisible to Americans, buried in a variety of budgets, and so have not been counted or assessed. For example, while most people think the Pentagon war appropriations are equivalent to the wars’ budgetary costs, the true numbers are twice that, and the full economic cost of the wars much larger yet. Conservatively estimated, the war bills already paid and obligated to be paid as of June 2011 are $3.2 trillion in constant dollars. A more reasonable estimate puts the number at nearly $4 trillion.
-http://www.costsofwar.org/
 
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Tucker6900

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Here we go again.....

Can anyone else hear that? It sounds like the black OCDO thread locking helicopter hovering overhead.
 
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