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unreconstructed1 wrote:
as for the OP, I would suggest that you stand your ground on the matter and confront the teacher with logic and reasoning. confront their superiors with the same and stick by your guns. you may feel that this will somehow be unfair to your child, but consider the fact that your child will watch as his parent stands up for what he believes in, and it may instill in him the same values as time goes on.
now for what seems to have become the main attraction of this thread:
this thread began as a gun enthusiast reaching out for advice from like minded individuals regarding discrimination and prejudice aimed at a child due to his fondness for guns. this thread has since devolved into yet another liberal/conservative debate...
"liberal"... "conservative"... does it really matter? honestly?
in full disclosure, I could be classified as neither, and I know or work with members of both mindsets, and the main thing that sticks out is how remarkably similar both groups are (both groups meaning the "neo-" variety of each).
in my experience, both groups are absolutely willing to trade essential liberty for temporary security, something that we have been forewarned about.
neo-liberals wish to trade in the natural human right of self defense in order to protect the false idea of a utopian paradise where everyone can be rahabilitated and no one should be held accountable for their actions or punished for crimes. In reality some people simply can not be rehabilitated, and regardless of the "value of human life", If a man decides to break into my home and threaten me or my family, or to steal from me those things which I earned by the sweat of my brow, THEY have set the value of their life at approximately $ 0.00, not me.
neo-conservatives wish to trade in the natural human right of freedom in order to protect the false idea of "national security". they will praise the FED for their use of torture and their complete disregard for the laws of man and of nature, just because it is "them" that they are doing it to ( "them" currently being "terrorists", "radicals" and "dissenters", just as in Nazi Germany it was "communists", "gypsies" and "homosexuals") all the while ignoring the fact that the official description of "them" continues to expand until "them" becomes "us".
the whole while both groups will throw insults at the other and blame the other for every problem that they face, all the while drawing attention away from the true source of the problem.
don't blame the problems that we are experiencing on "them" or on "those damned liberals" or "those damned neo-cons". If you want to know the source of the problem, look no farther than a mirror. it is us, the American people who continue to let things get out of hand. we squabble over petty issues such as the ones that I described while we should be more focused on working towards fixing the problems, not blaming someone for them.
I realize that I may not be the most popular member of this forum, and that this opinion will probably serve to make me even less popular, but this had to be said.
MY REPLY: Correct me if I got this wrong, ( I am conservative, & Judeo Christian in spiritual belief ) but do you think we are one big brotherhood of man ?
Are you trying to put the morals of decent average hard working patriotic Americans who see what is wrong with our fellow un-moral misguided Americans with te ugly horrific lack of morals of Nazi Germany ?
I am getting to the "you vs them" part of your post, and to your saying we have to fix a problem by all getting together in one big group of Americans and working on our problem.
The is nice and sweet and NOT reality my gun totin friend.
Yes I understand the saying of Ghandi: "Change in yorself what you want to see chaning in the world", I understand that you cannot go around being angry pointing fingers UNLESS you are clean yourself, but if you are right ( there is an ultimate right & wrong ) then you CAN point finger and can challenge those who are wrong and you in fact can draw guns and escrt them out of our country or shoot them dead even if they are your neighboor or a politician.
Your example of "getting along" is nt applicable, Ghandi was talking about a personal internal change for the better , and that is no defence for sitting back and watching imoral anti good anti common sense ideologies take over our neighborhoods and political system.
To me your statements and mindset are childish and spiritually dull, sociologically inept and frankly lacking any sort of common sense.
I will tell you why; the rabid dog that is chewing on my leg even tho it is an American rabid dog and once domestic and tranquil did not listen to my warring, does not care about my pain as it chews on my leg., I was just minding my own business and a rabid dg apeared in my political front yard and assaulted me
What would you do in your form of logic with this dog as it chews and rips into your leg ?
Liberal/ Conservative, they are just words to try to give a basic face book description to how a person thinks , acts and has their being; a shallow definition but it is basic and fast on how to know where a person is coming from.
In case you were on vacation , asleep or out hunting in the woods for the last 50 years we have been at war, a moral war with anti Christ anit freedom anti liberty atheists who call themselves Communists, we have been very covertly assaulted, assimilated whereby our intituitons even Chrstian churches have goton in by our own lack of tru moral goodness , we have been hypocrits and our children of the 60's rebelled, and were open to new alien idologies and communism was one.
It was a well designed ush to de-moralize us away from God and into the arms of Karl Marx idiology, now we have 2nd and 3rd generation communists they are our children and porfessors now morphed into a new word called socialists, repackadged by public relations media into progressive.
The 2nd and 3rd generation of Marxists are very very mentaly ill ( hypnotized) intellectualy washed of there ground of moral sense ( brain washed ) they are very psychotic they act in the best interest of no one to the exclusion of everyone.
They do not head logic nor have any moral foundation from which to base there pagan ideloligy , at the same time they see that most Chrstian conservative types are psychotic themselves so actaully my friend there is no one who is sane and rational to steer the wheel of the ship America.
There seems to be a few athiests Marxist at the top who are truly sane , evil and know exactly what they want ---> POWER.
There seems to be a very few trully good Americans who also know exacly who they are and what they want ( Ronald Regan types ) and they want GOODNESS.
Everyone else is subject to persuation, subject to authority, subject to doubt, subject to temptation, subject to anger etc....
There are very very few people who are there of person who do not need laws to be good and wise.
Myself , I am as anti homosexual as you can get and NOT be a Nazi.
Yes I rant about liberals, and liberal homosexuals I sure do , and I know the difference between a conservative homosexual who is 2A friendly and a liberal, to me they are both very ill people, but one type has an intransigent ego that hates me and thee other does not, he is mild mannered , tho ill but not "rabid".
I dont hate them, I dont want to kill them , I dont fear them, I dont scape goat them nor do I want to send the off to reducation camps, so the Nazi comparison does not wash.
I want to restrain them, I do not want them marching naked down main street USA.
Unlike Christians I dont want to save them , but I do want them to find salvation thru Jesus which is a different proccess of enlightenment without my ego getting in the way.
I want to beat them at the polls, not with my fist, but beat them with my moral strength, with my brightness, my truly grounded imorality, with my resoned argument, my peace loving nature all the while with my gun in my belt as I am like a rattle snake if attacked by a rabid dog.
It all comes down to there is a true and real right , and a true and real wrong, ther IS evil and there is Good and both come thru humans, both act and have there spiritual being thru humans and there must be a line in the sand, and when that line is crossed there must be imediate and real defiance and defence.
