Mag Retention

[donny]

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Been wondering about this. I understand ways to prevent someone removing the weapon but what about the mag? I know mine (carried on my weak side) could be snatched out of it's Kydex carrier in a heartbeat. With a single mag in Cali that would leave one up the creek. Thoughts? Are fully enclosed mag carriers considered concealed?

 

[Army]

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As a full flap holster is not concealed, full flap mag pouches are also not concealed.



Easier solution......carry more magazines

 

[Iopencarry]

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as long as the carrier is not concealed by a shirt/coat ect. a falp covered mag pouch is legal.

I use one every day

 

[Joe Bullet]

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When open carrying, do you have to keep the mag on your weak side or can it be next to your weapon?

 

[merle]

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Army wrote:

Easier solution......carry more magazines

I prefer this solution. A couple of magazines on the weak side would help increase capacity by 100%.

However, I don't think anyone is likely to specifically grab the magazines as opposed to the gun, probably more disinclined to be honest as they may not be sure you got the memo about the "U" portion of the UOC restriction.

 

[Iopencarry]

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does not haveto be weak side, but CAN NOT be attached to the gun in any way.

 

[Deathwing_Kingstar]

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i use a full flap mag pouch with two slots. i recommending finding a good pouch that fits your mags snug so it gives it a little more retention than just the flaps.

 

[HankT]

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donny wrote:

Been wondering about this. I understand ways to prevent someone removing the weapon but what about the mag? I know mine (carried on my weak side) could be snatched out of it's Kydex carrier in a heartbeat. With a single mag in Cali that would leave one up the creek. Thoughts? Are fully enclosed mag carriers considered concealed?

There has never been a (credible) recorded case of a magazine being snatched from an OCer.

Never.

Therefore, it cannot happen.

Fears ofa magazine snatchare completely unwarranted and the result of spurious rumors propagated by anti-gunners likePaul Helmke and the Brady Campaign. Turds!

Don't buy into the fear!

 

[ryanburbridge]

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LOL I would like to meet this mysterious guy who is going to try to take a gun from an UOCier. He has got some balls. hope he dose not mistake a plain clothes officer for a lonely UOCier.

 

[HankT]

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ryanburbridge wrote:

LOL I would like to meet this mysterious guy who is going to try to take a gun from an UOCier. He has got some balls. hope he dose not mistake a plain clothes officer for a lonely UOCier.

Hmm, this raises a question. What would happen if some miscreant were to sneak up on a LAC (non-LEO) OCer and......swipe a mag and start running away?

How should such an event be handled? How would such an event be handled?

 

[demnogis]

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HankT wrote:

Hmm, this raises a question. What would happen if some miscreant were to sneak up on a LAC (non-LEO) OCer and......swipe a mag and start running away?

How should such an event be handled? How would such an event be handled?

HankT,
Events of gun snatching/mag snatching have not been recorded. It has been my experience that while one is carrying one exercises more situational awareness. If you're not, you most definitely should be. Also there stands the fact that wrong-doers avoid armed people to seek out "soft" targets.

Would you attempt to steal or attack someone when you can't tell if the gun they are carrying is loaded or unloaded? How do you know that person is not a plainclothes LEO and can carry loaded? Or a normal person with a permit to carry loaded? Granted in that situation if I were the perpetrator I would avoid the risk altogether.

But since you asked the hypothetical I will give you one hypothetical answer: The case of the individual in Georgia who was Open Carrying. A "mall ninja" tried to get the drop on him. It was an unsuccessful attempt. Practice retention. Develop your reflexes. If someone is able to get a loaded magazine for your firearm, the decision is yours to make. I may pursue whereas you may just write off $30 worth of ammo and a magazine. If someone steals from you, you can detain them until an officer arrives. Just make sure you have witnesses!

 

[wewd]

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I can only come up with one incident of an attempted gun grab on a civilian OCer by another civilian. It occurred last year in Georgia. A security guard attempted to disarm an OCer and it did not go well for the security guard.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/36094.html

Under normal circumstances (Loaded open carry in a free state) I would not be concerned with someone grabbing my loaded magazines, since I could defend myself with a loaded gun. California's UOC presents a different problem. Always carry two magazines, always be aware of your immediate personal space, and don't let anyone get close enough to you to grab your gun or your magazines. Most importantly: always, always use an active retention holster for your firearm.

 

[Army]

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Iopencarry wrote:

does not haveto be weak side, but CAN NOT be attached to the gun in any way.

Sort of. Ammuntion cannot be in a position to be fired (chambered, in the cylinder, or a empty chamber but inserted full magazine)

You can duct tape the full mag to the side of the gun if you wish.