Well everyone this here is the 1ST TIME I been back here for a mighty loooong time yesseree Bob's yer uncle!met w/two female managers at local sam's this afternoon...
asked for DM's email/phone number, was told no...call corp! they were informed corp notified.
they informed me prohibition to inform members to take their firearms back to the vehicles has been long standing, i responded the april 2019 corp statement "requested customers..." as well reiterated that is where firearms are stolen by someone watching someone return to their vehicles and then enter the establishment w/o their firearm.
also gave them the 18 page, dtd april 2021, member's terms and conditions along with the commentary the term firearm doesn't appear in the document once.
then the two in almost in unison, stated they are trying to provide a 'safe' environment for customers...i responded studies has shown OC'g in establishment deters bad guys from doing bad things.
I didn't point out they needed signage but the two managers were 'educated' but doubt they will pass the end of course assessment.
PS: just got beat beat about the head stating i needed to finish todays saga...
first, the checker didn't say a word about my OC'd firearm
second, neither manager said a word about the OC'd pistol nor did either one ask me to take my pistol out to my vehicle.
finally, turned and walked into the and shopped for an hour...all the while awaiting johnny law to show up to challenge my carry...
If remember right in Texas, the sign has to be of a specific size & specific wording via 30.06 & 30.07 to be legal.I'm here in TX (ELP) now on a short trip (from CO). Went to a Walmart yesterday and as per usual, as I know they long ago "requested" no one OC there anymore, took my gun out of its OWB/cross-draw holster and put it into my vest's (leather "biker-vest") outside pocket before going in (gun was upside-down in my pocket with the grip up, so you COULD see (with the "Sig-Sauer 380 Auto" on the mag's base-plate) if you looked there so it wasn't 100% "concealed." But that's how I do it anyway, and no one's noticed yet even standing right next to me be they security, city cops, other citizens, Walmart (or supermarket/restuarant) employees staff or management.
Did my shopping, and when I went out spoke to one of the 2 armed security guards -- one an off-duty (hired by Walmart) EPPD city cop, and the other private security (spoke to the city cop) -- and asked, "Is Walmart still not wanting people to OC in their stores?"
He said as long as it's not visible and took me over to a small sign posted (didn't see it with SO MANY signs on the door!) that said "No open carrying." Don't know if he noticed my empty holster, but I lifted my vest pocket (with the gun in it) and said, "No, it's not visible, it's in here" -- he didn't say anything or even seemed to care.
It's hard though to keep state laws and individual store "requests" straight as I can be in one any of 3 states at a given time (CO, NM and TX).
Still, it's been "So far, so good" keeping out of GFZ trouble, even though I carry in them anyway.