Lord Sega
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Short version: Guy violates stalking order (is that different than a restraining order?) by going to ex-girlfriends house, yelling at her, and driving through her yard, gets arrested back at his home (second-degree criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, stalking order violation, violation of a release agreement and two counts of harassment).
I don't have any problem with the arrest, but what got my attention is the lead off to the article is:
Why lead with this when the firearms (apparently) were not used or a part of the incident that got the guy arrested?
Also, why weren't they seized at the time the "stalking order" was given as part of the court order?
But what really confuses me is towards the end of the article:
Not court ordered, not for evidence, not as part of the bail agreement, but removed due to the request a person living with the guy.
How can a room-mate / live-in GF / or even a wife just give a guy's personal property over to law enforcement? (ok, maybe the wife if community property).
If asked, I'm sure law enforcement would say it's a safety issue, but if the guy is behind bars... what safety issue? Taking them as part of the bail agreement when he's released I can see, then he's voluntarily giving them over.
Can she legally give the firearms to the LEOs? And can the LEOs legally take them into "safe keeping" when they are not part of the crime or a court order (bail or RO agreement)?
Thoughts?
Short version: Guy violates stalking order (is that different than a restraining order?) by going to ex-girlfriends house, yelling at her, and driving through her yard, gets arrested back at his home (second-degree criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, stalking order violation, violation of a release agreement and two counts of harassment).
I don't have any problem with the arrest, but what got my attention is the lead off to the article is:
"Clatsop County Sheriff’s deputies removed 17 weapons from the home of a man who violated a stalking order Friday night."
Why lead with this when the firearms (apparently) were not used or a part of the incident that got the guy arrested?
Also, why weren't they seized at the time the "stalking order" was given as part of the court order?
But what really confuses me is towards the end of the article:
"Another woman, who lives with Killion, requested his 17 weapons be removed from the home for safe keeping,"
Not court ordered, not for evidence, not as part of the bail agreement, but removed due to the request a person living with the guy.
How can a room-mate / live-in GF / or even a wife just give a guy's personal property over to law enforcement? (ok, maybe the wife if community property).
If asked, I'm sure law enforcement would say it's a safety issue, but if the guy is behind bars... what safety issue? Taking them as part of the bail agreement when he's released I can see, then he's voluntarily giving them over.
Can she legally give the firearms to the LEOs? And can the LEOs legally take them into "safe keeping" when they are not part of the crime or a court order (bail or RO agreement)?
Thoughts?
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