Let's have a national OC day!!!

[longwatch]

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Lack of enthusiasm is most likely due to for most around here every day or any day can be an OC day. No special occassion necessary.


Lets look at dates. I would suggest a date in the warmer months when people will actually not risk getting a cold to OC. Say between April and September. Also put it on a weekend when more people can free from work to OC. Maybe tie it to a symbolic date like April 19th, John Brownings, Samuel Colts. or Gaston Glocks Birthdays (Jan 21st, July 19th, etc). I think once we get the details worked out we need a megathread on OCDO for participants, and perhaps a satellite blog. Of course we will also need everyone to spread the word.

Ok I think thats a bare bones plan, any suggestions?

 

[HankT]

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longwatch wrote:

Lack of enthusiasm is most likely due to for most around here every day or any day can be an OC day. No special occassion necessary.

Well, that's the problem. The idea of a National OC Day is not about actually legallyand responsibly carrying every day (or less often).

It's about spreading awareness that some people are actually legally and responsibly carrying every day (or less often).

Most of the population, by far does not know that.

Most of the concerted efforts, "around here," that have been embarked upon to spread that same message have created animosity and bad feelings, i.e., the various MMM sorties. But those events created BAD press. Not good.

It's about time, I think, for a totally positive effort to spread the word that OC is legal andthat almost all of its practitioners are reasonable, lawful adn responsible folks.


longwatch wrote:

Lets look at dates. I would suggest a date in the warmer months when people will actually not risk getting a cold to OC. Say between April and September. Also put it on a weekend when more people can free from work to OC. Maybe tie it to a symbolic date like April 19th, John Brownings, Samuel Colts. or Gaston Glocks Birthdays (Jan 21st, July 19th, etc). I think once we get the details worked out we need a megathread on OCDO for participants, and perhaps a satellite blog. Of course we will also need everyone to spread the word.

Ok I think thats a bare bones plan, any suggestions?

I would say that the main criterion for selecting a date would be when the maximum amount of news media coverage could be accessed. The goal is to increase awareness and, perhaps, favorable attitudes. Generally, people don't care who Browning, Colt, or Gaston are, much less what their birthdays are.

The really important first steps, longwatch,are to decide what the communication message should be and who the target audience is.


BTW, what's a megathread? :shock:

 

[longwatch]

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Reaching the general population would be great but I think we need to activate the gun owners first to do it. Thats why I think a symbolic date is useful. By megathread is just a place where participants can come to sign on with their plans to participate through regular OC or meetups, etc.

I think our message of course to show our right to keep and bear arms. To show that peaceable people can be armed in public.

 

[ace1001]

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"No but I think it is bad form to propose something if one has no intention of participating."


I OC everyday, all day and I have a holster screwed to the bed. Its between the towels when I take a bath. Only these damned signs get in my way for a few minutes.

I think OC would be harder to go unnoticed than just any T-shirt day. So start to join in on the 2nd of every month or any other day you can. Put your pistol where your belt is and stop walking helplessly through the world.:celebrateAce

 

[longwatch]

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Old fashioned bump.

 

[BluesBear]

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While I acknowledgeJohn Browning as the most prolific firearms designer of all time, there are those who don't care for him simply because he designed the M1911 pistol. So I think we should pick a more appropriate date. One that both commemorates an important person but also occurs at a time of year when open carry is easily done in all climates.

So I hereby submit May 10 as National Open Carry Awareness Day (NOCAD). The calender week surrounding May 10 should also be deemed National Open Carry Awareness Week (NOCAW).

May 10 is the birthday of the lateLieutenant Colonel John Dean (Jeff) Cooper, USMC. Colonel Cooper was the founder of what is now called "The Modern Technique of Pistolcraft". His discoveries and teachings have had a pronounced effect on ALL of us in the way we carry and shoot handguns.

The season surrounding May 10 is usually warm enough throughout the entire USAto make open carry comfortable for everyone.

What does everyone else think about making May 10, NOCAD?

Now I don't know how hard it is to get a national declaration, but it seems it doesn't takemuch to have a state governor proclaim any date you want as whatever you want it to be. I can check and see what has to be done in order to get ourMadame Governorup here in Washingtonto make such a declaration. If we can get enough states to declare it then we can take it national.

 

[BluesBear]

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Hmmmm I just thought of something.

Is it even possible to have a NOCAD since open carry is not lawful everywhere?

However, if we CAN have it declared nationally, maybe then it wouldopen the door for legislation to legalize open carry in more places?

Now I realize that the naysayers will tell us that calling attention to current open carry laws will only create legislation that will further curtail our freedoms. But I believe there are enough people throughout America who, once they are made aware and properly educated about it, will support open carry.It might not be easy, but Ibelieve there will be enough continued support to make our efforts worthwhile in the long run.

What do y'all think?

 

[imperialism2024]

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BluesBear wrote:

Hmmmm I just thought of something.

Is it even possible to have a NOCAD since open carry is not lawful everywhere?

However, if we CAN have it declared nationally, maybe then it wouldopen the door for legislation to legalize open carry in more places?

Now I realize that the naysayers will tell us that calling attention to current open carry laws will only create legislation that will further curtail our freedoms. But I believe there are enough people throughout America who, once they are made aware and properly educated about it, will support open carry.It might not be easy, but Ibelieve there will be enough continued support to make our efforts worthwhile in the long run.

What do y'all think?

An even better option, which I doubt will happen, is that the people truly do have a national open carry day. If every liberty-minded person in Florida decided to OC on a day, how could the courts handle the hundreds of thousands of "criminals"? If this happened in every no-OC state, it would have a tremendous impact. However, rarely anyone these days is willing to violate the law and be arrested for exercising their rights as a human being.

 

[ace1001]

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Who wants to be the Brown vs Board of Education for OC? :?

Well, I say use all of the above suggested dates for open carry where you can. There should be no SPECIAL day to exercise your rights but anything is a start. I ALWAYS use TODAY!!:celebrateAnd it always is. :celebrate Ace

 

[Thundar]

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HankT wrote:

longwatch wrote:

Now you are hiding behind it being off topic? The question of what will you do on National OC Day is very on topic I think, you said it was a good idea and I agree with you. I just want to have an idea of how much support we will have. Its good to know if people like you will participate, help out or not.

I'd be very glad to participate. This would be a good project for OCDO. VCDL really can't get involved in such an event.

I'm glad you thinkan annual National OC Day it's a good idea, LW. It's a viable idea. Worked right, the output is moreawareness of OC being presented in a favorable light. To educate the folks out there--from sheeps to law-makers.

Frankly, I'm surprised that folks have not expressed energetic support for the idea when the idea has come up before. I wonder how much support there would be?

But with longwatch in favor of the idea, that's gotta result in people agreeing with you.

Virginia is the place where OC is happening the most. But there have to be several other states that could be represented to make it a NATIONAL event. With, essentially, free advertising.

What do others think about the idea?

I think Election Day would be the most appropriate day.

 

[imperialism2024]

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I think Election Day would be the most appropriate day.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/5845.html

Still think so? :?

 

[longwatch]

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I like the May 10th idea.

 

[longwatch]

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ace1001 wrote:

Who wants to be the Brown vs Board of Education for OC? :?

Well, I say use all of the above suggested dates for open carry where you can. There should be no SPECIAL day to exercise your rights but anything is a start. I ALWAYS use TODAY!!:celebrateAnd it always is. :celebrate Ace

I agree that today and everyday is an OC day. But not everyone is with the program. One part of an OC day is to give the fence sitters and first timers an excuse to try it. Of course we are trying to increase awareness as well.

 

[ace1001]

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How about an OC Thanksgiving? It's mostly on private property and we can thank God we live in a country where men can be men:celebrate Ace

 

[unrequited]

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I do like May 10th as well, only because I'm partial to his "rules" of gun safety, color condition codes, carry condition codes, hoplophobia, amongst other major contributions. Good choice.

 

[HankT]

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longwatch wrote:

I agree that today and everyday is an OC day. But not everyone is with the program. One part of an OC day is to give the fence sitters and first timers an excuse to try it. Of course we are trying to increase awareness as well.

Good point. Compared to the the total adult population, there is only a very small, almost tiny, group thatopen carries. We see evidence of this in a poll thread a while back:


How many people currently open carry in the U.S.?

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum7/4415.html

Gotta get greater awareness of the public to legal and responsible OC.

Else, it will always be a niche group. Or, worse, OC could get snuffed out by legislation in certain states--since so few people are actively doing it.

Grow or die....

 

[MamaLiberty]

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An OC "day" might be fine for some areas, and some people who can't or won't OC all the time. But it seems a pretty whimpy effort to me. Why not carry ALL the time, Everywhere possible, even you folks in occupied territory?

I'll continue to carry all the time, everywhere. My new carry gun is a XD .45 compact. LOVE IT!!!! I spent the better part of the day Saturday carrying in a big gun show, and the rest of the day shopping in Gillette. No problems, but I got to hand out my card to quite a few people, so it was an effective OC teaching day.

Sure is wonderful to live in Wyoming! :celebrate

 

[MamaLiberty]

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An OC "day" might be fine for some areas, and some people who can't or won't OC all the time. But it seems a pretty whimpy effort to me. Why not carry ALL the time, Everywhere possible, even you folks in occupied territory?

I'll continue to carry all the time, everywhere. My new carry gun is a XD .45 compact. LOVE IT!!!! I spent the better part of the day Saturday carrying in a big gun show, and the rest of the day shopping in Gillette. No problems, but I got to hand out my card to quite a few people, so it was an effective OC teaching day.

Sure is wonderful to live in Wyoming! :celebrate

 

[deepdiver]

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As others have touched on, the problematic issue is the very large number of areas that OC is illegal. I like the concept of such a national event. However, the argument as to the courts being clogged with OC cases where it is not legal and thereby preventing meaningful enforcement, while titillating from a theoretical stand point, is extremely problematic from a practical standpoint for a few reasons. Firstly, many of the people who would, all things being equal, OC for such an event, already CC. As we know from the statistics, people who CC are generally the most law abiding citizens in the country. They are not going to be inclined to violate the OC laws regardless of the reason. Secondly, even if they would violate the OC laws in civil disobediance, they (myself included) would be disinclined to risk the likely loss of their CC permit because of a charge of OC. the risk of losing more rights than we gain is huge.

 

[MamaLiberty]

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An OC "day" might be fine for some areas, and some people who can't or won't OC all the time. But it seems a pretty whimpy effort to me. Why not carry ALL the time, Everywhere possible, even you folks in occupied territory?

I'll continue to carry all the time, everywhere. My new carry gun is a XD .45 compact. LOVE IT!!!! I spent the better part of the day Saturday carrying in a big gun show, and the rest of the day shopping in Gillette. No problems, but I got to hand out my card to quite a few people, so it was an effective OC teaching day.

Sure is wonderful to live in Wyoming! :celebrate