self preservation
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While on FaceBook today, I saw the below comment posted to the Frankfort firearm group.
"wanted to share this with my fellow gun lovers.
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! I had an altercation this past weekend during a festival I was set up at. I wont mention the city due to legal reasons. Anyone who knows me knows I an a STRONG second amendment advocate and know that I ALWAYS carry for my protection. Veterans fought and died for my rights and I refuse to allow a bunch of tree hugging liberals take them away. During my festival (which was held in a public park) a member of the festival city committee went off on me for carrying. Told me to get my stuff and get off the premisis because there is a sign posted in the park "NO FIREARMS". I proceeded to tell her that sign means nothing because its illegally posted. You CAN NOT prohibit guns in a public area (parks, parking lots, sidewalks, ect.) KRS 237.110 sub 16 lists the areas in KY where guns are prohibited. Further on in that law also states " No Firearms signs have no force of law in KY unless posted in an area previously mentioned in sub 16." Therefore that sign is void by contitutional law and no Mayberry city rules can over ride that. I called in some higher powers I know regarding this. Turns out the lady who approached me is with the group MOMS DEMAND ACTION. Now MDA is the group who is hasseling Kroger and many other stores who allow carrying trying to bully them into banning guns. Since her group is supposed to stay peaceful and cant make their group political...she broke 2 laws. She was advocating for her group while representing a city committee for a festival. She also threatened me and became aggressive. She was arrested for her troubles. Keep in mind this ONLY works in public areas. You can not be arrested for going into a store with a sign posted. BUT if they ask you to leave, you must do so or can be arrested for trespassing. Score 1 for the second amendment."
I mentioned this being a 65.870 violation and the OP said 65.870 wouldn't apply because it is a "public" park. After several back and forth questions and answers between us, he states that 1) Taxpayers pay for the park and it is city controlled, but not owned or claimed by the city. 2) No one owns the land that is the park. I reason that 1) Not a lick of that logic makes a lick of damn sense. But I have been surprised before. Can land in KY. be "un-owned" as he claims? If so, who pays taxes on the land or how is the land tax exempt? Why does the city maintain control over the land but they don't "own" it? I'm betting the guy is misinformed, but I wanted to check to make sure that I'm not the misinformed one.
"wanted to share this with my fellow gun lovers.
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! I had an altercation this past weekend during a festival I was set up at. I wont mention the city due to legal reasons. Anyone who knows me knows I an a STRONG second amendment advocate and know that I ALWAYS carry for my protection. Veterans fought and died for my rights and I refuse to allow a bunch of tree hugging liberals take them away. During my festival (which was held in a public park) a member of the festival city committee went off on me for carrying. Told me to get my stuff and get off the premisis because there is a sign posted in the park "NO FIREARMS". I proceeded to tell her that sign means nothing because its illegally posted. You CAN NOT prohibit guns in a public area (parks, parking lots, sidewalks, ect.) KRS 237.110 sub 16 lists the areas in KY where guns are prohibited. Further on in that law also states " No Firearms signs have no force of law in KY unless posted in an area previously mentioned in sub 16." Therefore that sign is void by contitutional law and no Mayberry city rules can over ride that. I called in some higher powers I know regarding this. Turns out the lady who approached me is with the group MOMS DEMAND ACTION. Now MDA is the group who is hasseling Kroger and many other stores who allow carrying trying to bully them into banning guns. Since her group is supposed to stay peaceful and cant make their group political...she broke 2 laws. She was advocating for her group while representing a city committee for a festival. She also threatened me and became aggressive. She was arrested for her troubles. Keep in mind this ONLY works in public areas. You can not be arrested for going into a store with a sign posted. BUT if they ask you to leave, you must do so or can be arrested for trespassing. Score 1 for the second amendment."
I mentioned this being a 65.870 violation and the OP said 65.870 wouldn't apply because it is a "public" park. After several back and forth questions and answers between us, he states that 1) Taxpayers pay for the park and it is city controlled, but not owned or claimed by the city. 2) No one owns the land that is the park. I reason that 1) Not a lick of that logic makes a lick of damn sense. But I have been surprised before. Can land in KY. be "un-owned" as he claims? If so, who pays taxes on the land or how is the land tax exempt? Why does the city maintain control over the land but they don't "own" it? I'm betting the guy is misinformed, but I wanted to check to make sure that I'm not the misinformed one.
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