Kahr CW9 or Taurus PT111? (Kel-Tec pf9 guys are welcome too)

[oak1971]

I'll give you this one, at face-value-for now. Next question- is this something you bought on Ebay, or the 'net? Without physically holding/handling/inspecting 1st? If so, I can see the sense of buying, say, a pair of sneakers, or a hat, online.
NOT a firearm, without having some means of inspecting it 1st..

Bought locally, inspected thoroughly, was not an out of the box failure. Neither of my defective Tauri developed problems immediately.

 

[RetiredOC]

Because I was focusing on the portion that needed attention. The rest of the fluff folks can see and read, for themselves, above.^^^
No sense making people scroll through 2 pages of nonsense to hear the 1 important point.

Not sure what to tell you, beyond if the idea that if the arm you intend to use ,and possibly rely upon ,when the SHTF isnt important enough to spend the whopping 5 minutes-max- to detail-strip it, then that's on you..perhaps you can have your next of kin file a class-action lawsuit of some kind...

You get what you pay for, and from whom you pay it to, (especially if you didnt learn from it the 1st time around) but you only get half of what you die for from failing to inspect things for yourself. Why make Murphy's day any funnier than it's likely to be?

Assuming I don't inspect before carrying? I just said I break them down when I get them home...

And yes, you do get what you pay for. That's why Taurus guns are generally cheaper. (though recently they seem to be going up in price, which is odd considering the lack of quality.)

sent from my phone, excuse my grammar/spelling errors

 

[SovereignAxe]

SovereignAxe, the revolver has a transfer bar. It is a safety feature you'll see in a lot of new revolvers. When you pull the trigger on a revolver with a transfer bar, the bar goes up behind the firing pin as you pull the trigger. When the hammer falls, it doesn't contact the rear side of the firing pin itself, the hammer strikes up against the transfer bar which hits the firing pin. In the photo of the Taurus M85 NIB you can see that when the trigger is pulled and the transfer bar moves up, it lodges itself against the bottom of the firing pin thus stopping the trigger pull there. Something like this would get you killed.

My Ruger Blackhawk has a transfer bar, so I'm very familiar with the mechanism. I've had the same thing happen, but I've only ever had it happen with the cylinder removed from the frame. I see the same thing happening for you. Has it ever happened with the cylinder in place?

 

[RetiredOC]

My Ruger Blackhawk has a transfer bar, so I'm very familiar with the mechanism. I've had the same thing happen, but I've only ever had it happen with the cylinder removed from the frame. I see the same thing happening for you. Has it ever happened with the cylinder in place?

Don't quote me on this, but I think when the cylinder is in place the pin in the center pushing "something" into the transfer bar to push it o the rear as it moves up. I'm really not sure about that though. This problem with the Taurus M85 happened with the gun fully assembled

sent from my phone, excuse my grammar/spelling errors

 

[FireHawk911]

I have a PT111 Millennium dual tone, I love it. I was surprised at the accuracy seeing as it is a short barrel. I am about to get a 1911 but I am definently going to carry my PT111 often as well. I highly recomend this firearm, I love Taurus, Taurus will be my first pick when I get new firearms... ALWAYS!

 

[Firedawg314]

Not to be "off track" too much... I have the Tauras PT 638 SA (.380 ACP). I have been CC with it for about 2 1/2 months now. Its not heavy, it holds 15 in the mag and 1 in the chamber! The only real hoster I have found to hold it was from Bull Dog side hip quick draw...Man I love it. I have basically used it at the outdoor rang about once a week and I go through about 300 rounds at a time. I have attached a pic,

But at the same price you can get either the 9mm, .45 or .40 cal. But they hold less rounds. What I have found out is that 9mm ammo is the most afforble. At times .380 can be hard to find. But if you are basically going to use it for CC, its not bad. But the PT 111, from what I remember doesn't have the extra safety items such as; double trigger, dual safety thumb button. With this, you can use it either left or right handed. And the double trigger reduce the accendital discharge if dropped or you put it in your pocket and touched the trigger. In my opinion, what ever gun you get, make sure you have a double trigger. The recoil is really light... and the .380 is not as loud as the others (had to use it in my neghiboorhood, and no one heard a shot???)

Best thing to do in my opinion... check out each gun... see how it feels in your hand and if possible check out some gun ranges that may let you shoot.

Heck, ask on here for others near you who may have the gun(s) to meet them and ask to shoot theirs (just bring your own ammo, etc)

Good luck.

 

[onlurker]

A little late to the game, but...

I've been looking for a good CC pistol for a few months and plan on making my purchase in a couple of weeks. everything from the walther ppk to the kel-tec pf9. I had some interest in the taurus pt111 for some time. Stumbling onto the kahr CW9 I'm pretty much sold. I'd like to hear some opinions from the taurus guys and some opinions about the Kahr (Are there Kahr guys out there?) CW9. (Taurus PT11 single stack only)

Interesting, the PT111 that I have is double-stack holding 12-rounds, although it can be argued that it's more of a 1.5-stack since it's not as thick as most double-stack grips. Sounds to me like you're asking about the 709 Slim if you're looking at the CW9 and PF9 pistols. Either way I can comment on both the 709 and PT111 as I've had both bought new.

Here's the scoop: I've no issues to report. Sure I'm not shooting thousands of rounds through them at a time but I buy the cheapest of cheap ammo I can get and both firearms feed and fire each with no hiccups. I like the extra grip length of the PT111 over the 709 but the 709 is far more comfortable to conceal and absolutely disappears. However, the PT111 conceals nicely too so don't be fooled. The only gripe I've had is something that takes some getting used to, and that's the take-up of the trigger. DA is fine but in SA it's longer than a Sig and is most definitely a common complaint to hang your hat on. Just handle it and see for yourself.