Gunslinger
Regular Member
Howdy Again!
Firstly, I'd like to see some sort of statistics to support your allegation, highlighted in bold in my quote or your response. So far as I am aware, our military has Democrats serving in uniform right along with Republicans in the service of our country. Democrats have died in war and shed blood for our country right along with Republicans. They all take an oath to defend the Constution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic. LEO's across our nation come from both major political parties, and members of both groups have died in the service of their communities. The blood of all our patriots deserves the respect and highest honor, not just the Republican ones. Therefore I view your remarks as unwarranted and irresponsible. Democrats have fought for our rights in combat, spilled blood across the world's battlefields, and deserve better from those of us who enjoy these freedoms they've defended.
The belittlement of others, name-calling and insulting rhetoric do not represent folks in the pro-gun movement well and only serve to support erroneous ideas about who are advocates for gun rights. Snarky comments about specific political figures to justify condemnation of an entire group of people (i.e. Democrats) are hardly productive. And as I indicated earlier, to paint an entire group with the same broad brush is unreasonable.
I seem to recall that the Brady Bill was sponsored by Republicans after Jim Brady was left badly injured by John Hinkley in his attempted murder of President Ronald Reagan. The Brady bill was hardly something that can be considered pro-gun, and sponsored by Republicans.
That being said, as I mentioned earlier, this is not a partisan issue. It is encoded in our Bill of Rights, and in Article 2 section 13 of the Colorado Constitution.
A political party, any political party, is going to establish a platform based on members. Therefore, only when such constituents become part of the politcial process does a platform become cohesive based on the notions of the members. When democrats, such as myself, work within the party system to voice support for gun rights, it ultimately has an impact on platform. The more who step forward to state their views on party platform, the more likely contrary platform specifics are to be changed for the better. From what I read in your response, it would appear you'd rather the Democratic party remain favorable to gun control legislation rather than having members, such as myself, work to improve their platform. Evidently, according to what you have said, my rights to gun ownership as a Democrat cause you digestive distress. How unfortunate. But I am not alone in my position, as there are a whole bunch of democrats who have their CC just as there are Republicans. Therefore, I am fairly confident that members of both parties have advocates within them for our Constutional rights.
Having failed to encourage civil discourse, I will choose to abandon this discussion at this time.
Thank you for your views, but I do not believe them to be helpful when all that is offered is hyperbole and insult.
Blessings,
M-Taliesin
Your choice, but let me disabuse you of your statements. Look at the voting records of democrats on gun control. Then look at the republicans'. Look at the rating given by the NRA to candidates. Name a republican who is in the same class as clinton, schumer, Hanoi john kerry, lautenberg, obama when a senator, ad infinitum. My comments are not inclusive of rank and file citizens who vote for the (few) principled democrats, but rather the elected officials. Don't delude yourself into thinking the democrat party is the one of Truman and John Kennedy. It is not. It is the crypto- marxist party of pelosi, clinton and obama. Rather than being 'insulted' by my comments, challenge them with citations showing where I am mistaken in this post. You seem to miss the point that this is a pro-2nd Amendment forum and that is the singular issue of the instant discussion, not your fantasy world view that you can change a marxist platform into a centrist when you are in the extreme minority of members who claim your party. The heritage of the democrat party is dead. Their real politik is exteme leftwing statism.
I deleted comments on those who serve, democrat or republican, as I don't believe that you act with anything other than conviction--incorrect in my opinion, but sincere. I think you will learn a lot on this forum and may well find your views changing.
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