Hampton Roads - OC reports

[scouser]

Welcome aboard, I guess it's my turn to do the usual spiel about please (if you haven't already done so) consider joining VCDL, probably the premier grass roots gun-rights group in Virginia. Membership is only $25 per year, and as much as it would be preferred that you join, at the very least you should sign up for the free email alerts that will help keep you informed with regards to firearms related news in VA.

Also, keep checking back here for announcements of local breakfast/lunch/dinner meetups. They are a great way to informally gather with other open carriers in a friendly atmosphere.

 

[Grapeshot]

im looking to start open carrying in my area and wanted to get some info from ppl with more recent encounters with open carry. i will mostly be in the newport news and hampton area and want know what kind of places have ppl been where oc is not allowed and what places have been pretty friendly about it. any feedback or any other additional info would be great...thanks

Merged your thread with this one - it's always good to check before starting a new thread to see if one already exists.

You just missed a great picnic in Newport News last week-end.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...ept-15th-2012&highlight=VCDL+picnic+city+park

Check the stickies regularly - there are frequent meet n' greet events in your area.

List of gun owner unfriendly businesses in VA:
http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html

Places where carrying concealed is prohibited - generally applies to open carry also (see lower portion of page):
http://www.vcdl.org/static/ccw.html

 

[c_2010]

thanks scouser and Grapeshot

 

[The Airframer]

Open carrying around here lately to Walmart on P. Anne, the Walmart on Phoenix Dr, 7/11 on Independence, Superior Gun & Range on Lynnhaven, Plaza Azteca on Holland, and riding my bike around my neck of the woods.

No negative experiences at any of the places. Itching for hunting season in NC to begin, October 13th can't come fast enough!!! I can almost taste the venison already!

 

[starbuck]

The Owner of this Location called and we had a nice Long discussion The gist of the discussion follows:

The owner is a Life member of NRA and has a Gun by his bed at home.

OpenCarry is not allowed at this location.
Concealing is okay per the Owner.

The robbers that robbed this location, paraded the employees all around the store. With a gun to the manager's head, so they are gun-shy and frightened by any sort of gun.

(I told him that If I owned the Store My employees would have the ability to defend themselves...)

He says that Corporate rules state that employees may not be armed and they are to do whatever the robbers command them to do... just to get the robbery over as quickly as possible....

Bottom line was he doesn't want to loose my business, if I just conceal his staff won't get all nervous and scared and I can dine again with them.

I thanked him for calling...

I can understand his stance, with the trauma that his employees experienced. I wouldn't go so far as to say I agree, but I understand. At least he wasn't a jerk about it though.

 

[Grapeshot]

I can understand his stance, with the trauma that his employees experienced. I wouldn't go so far as to say I agree, but I understand. At least he wasn't a jerk about it though.

I much better understand those that say "Never again" and take pro active steps in that direction.

While we each have the right to decide how to react to a threat, it is poor judgement IMO to duplicate the conditions that allowed the crime to happen and expect you will be safer. What is a shame here is that he puts others at risk by his decision.

 

[45acpForMe]

I much better understand those that say "Never again" and take pro active steps in that direction.

While we each have the right to decide how to react to a threat, it is poor judgement IMO to duplicate the conditions that allowed the crime to happen and expect you will be safer. What is a shame here is that he puts others at risk by his decision.

I agree Grapshot, when discussing a similar robbery at the mall my mother-in-law (very anti-2a) works at she used the "safe" robbery where no one was harmed as an example of why guns are NOT needed!!! She sure does put alot of faith in someone willing to rob her that they don't have any other intentions! Too many people/agencies/psycho-babblists try to tell everyone to "just do what they want" to avoid being harmed. I'm sorry but if they want my life or my daughters purity they will be assuming room temperature very quickly!

ETA: Shoot to stop the attack, once the attack is stopped other emergency personnel can work to see if they can stop the decline to room temperature.

 

[ocholsteroc]

I agree Grapshot, when discussing a similar robbery at the mall my mother-in-law (very anti-2a) works at she used the "safe" robbery where no one was harmed as an example of why guns are NOT needed!!! She sure does put alot of faith in someone willing to rob her that they don't have any other intentions! Too many people/agencies/psycho-babblists try to tell everyone to "just do what they want" to avoid being harmed. I'm sorry but if they want my life or my daughters purity they will be assuming room temperature very quickly!

ETA: Shoot to stop the attack, once the attack is stopped other emergency personnel can work to see if they can stop the decline to room temperature.

Its two shots to center mass, what I learned from LEO/classes at college.

 

[45acpForMe]

Its two shots to center mass, what I learned from LEO/classes at college.

I prefer (empty first magazine) reload, reassess, if needed repeat.

 

[Grapeshot]

I agree Grapshot, when discussing a similar robbery at the mall my mother-in-law (very anti-2a) works at she used the "safe" robbery where no one was harmed as an example of why guns are NOT needed!!! She sure does put alot of faith in someone willing to rob her that they don't have any other intentions! Too many people/agencies/psycho-babblists try to tell everyone to "just do what they want" to avoid being harmed. I'm sorry but if they want my life or my daughters purity they will be assuming room temperature very quickly!

ETA: Shoot to stop the attack, once the attack is stopped other emergency personnel can work to see if they can stop the decline to room temperature.

Lacking a crystal ball in which to see the future, I must work with what I see now. If someone points a gun at me with malicious intent, they have the means, immediate capacity and opportunity to do me grievous harm - that is totally unacceptable.

Will I trust that person to not harm me?

Will I believe it is their intent to harm me?

 

[scouser]

I agree Grapshot, when discussing a similar robbery at the mall my mother-in-law (very anti-2a) works at she used the "safe" robbery where no one was harmed as an example of why guns are NOT needed!!! She sure does put alot of faith in someone willing to rob her that they don't have any other intentions! Too many people/agencies/psycho-babblists try to tell everyone to "just do what they want" to avoid being harmed. I'm sorry but if they want my life or my daughters purity they will be assuming room temperature very quickly!

ETA: Shoot to stop the attack, once the attack is stopped other emergency personnel can work to see if they can stop the decline to room temperature.

Lacking a crystal ball in which to see the future, I must work with what I see now. If someone points a gun at me with malicious intent, they have the means, immediate capacity and opportunity to do me grievous harm - that is totally unacceptable.

Will I trust that person to not harm me?

Will I believe it is their intent to harm me?

Many years ago, somewhere around 25 or so, I was working my first job after leaving school. I worked in an office of a manufacturing plant. Most of the people who worked there were paid in cash once a week (I don't mean 'cash' as in avoiding taxes, just cash as opposed to a check or directly into a bank account). An unarmed security guard would bring in a bag of money on a Thursday afternoon and we would all pitch in to help count it before our wages dept started making up the wage envelopes. One day the security guard was interrupted as he was leaving by a pair of masked men carrying double barrelled sawn off shotguns. They forced him back into the room we were in after pointing the guns at his head and threatening to kill him if we didn't let them in.

Obviously (this was a factory in Liverpool in 1987) none of us were armed and we really had little choice but to follow the commands being shouted at us about putting the money in a dufflebag they had with them.

At no point in this robbery did I feel 'safe' because I was doing as I was told. At no point did I feel 'safe' because we didn't have a means to defend ourselves. Sorry Mr 45, in my humble opinion having been in that situation, I can honestly say that your mother in law's comments are a crock.

FWIW, the only outcome of this robbery was that everyone at that factory had their wages paid directly into their bank account as soon as it could be set up. To this day I have no idea if the crooks were ever caught.

 

[45acpForMe]

<snip> Sorry Mr 45, in my humble opinion having been in that situation, I can honestly say that your mother in law's comments are a crock.
<snip>

We agree. She lives in her own created fantasy world where all guns could be unmade and uninvented and criminals would somehow not use knives or other weapons!

I have to think she is projecting that she doesn't trust herself with a gun so therefore she doesn't trust anyone else with one. Yes we know hoplophobia is a mental disorder.

I am all for making a criminals work environment less safe and potentiall lethal. On a side note one of my friends had his car broken into last night. The deputy said that about 47 cars had things stolen from them in that area the same night. Too bad we can't defend property with lethal force or that crime might drop too. I wish we could use rock-salt in a shotgun shell for less lethal things like that.

 

[starbuck]

I much better understand those that say "Never again" and take pro active steps in that direction.

While we each have the right to decide how to react to a threat, it is poor judgement IMO to duplicate the conditions that allowed the crime to happen and expect you will be safer. What is a shame here is that he puts others at risk by his decision.

I'm with you, I'm just saying I understand where he's coming from.

 

[Lincoln7]

OC'd to the County Line Tavern in Ivor on Rt 460. Later that evening to Autozone and then to Charlie Daniels Racing garage for their 1st and 3rd of the month Friday night car cruise in. Talk about luck, I was driving my vette and it was 'corvette night'! No issues or crazy looks, the way I like it

 

[45acpForMe]

OC-ed to Atlantic Coast Tumbling and Chipotle at Patrick Henry Mall. No issues.

At Chipotle I was sitting/eating right next to the exit/entrance to the mall when a NN Police officer (with his takeout dinner in his hand) stopped by and asked if I planned to go into the mall. I responded that no, I knew they didn't like guns in there. With a smile he went on his happy way. I took it as a friendly warning to avoid trouble/hassle and nothing else. A prior (year or two) visit at Chipotle when I saw two NN Police officers eating dinner I handed them some OC-info cards and asked their opinion on OC-ers. They both supported OC and toward the end of that short conversation also reminded me that the mall management didn't allow OC.

All in all a good OC day!

 

[nilla]

stayed a night at firstlanding state park. had a great time with the kids and only caught waves and smiles.
by comparison to the 5th wheels and RV's with satellite TV dishes atop; i didn't even feel like i was 'cheating' when i used a propane torch to light the campfire.
but most of the campsites are pretty close to shore drive it wasn't a problem until the traffic picked up around midninght

 

[2a4all]

OC'd to the Virginia Zoo in Norfolk (very crowded), and to Farm Fresh in Grafton.

No issues.

 

[MagiK_SacK]

Open Carry in Hampton Roads

Couldn't OC this weekend seeing as how I was at Portsmouth Naval Hospital all weekend. Our newest family member, Kayleigh, decided it was time to be born. Luckily she waited till the weekend after the NN OC picnic. We will be taking a walk tomorrow, I can get back to OCing then.

 

[Grapeshot]

Couldn't OC this weekend seeing as how I was at Portsmouth Naval Hospital all weekend. Our newest family member, Kayleigh, decided it was time to be born. Luckily she waited till the weekend after the NN OC picnic. We will be taking a walk tomorrow, I can get back to OCing then.View attachment 9266

Congratulations to mom and pop - she is something of which you may be justly proud.


Have you put her first training gun on lay-away yet? :lol:..:lol:

 

[utyszkij]

Just recently bought my first Glock. (17 Gen 4).. OC'd to wal-mart off Lynnhaven and Princess Anne. I was looking for some 9mm and all they had was *Federal Classic 115g Hollowpoints*.. Never heard of it and it was 15.xx for a box of 50. Can I shoot this stuff like some normal FMJ orrrr?