Governor Kaine wants legislature to change guns laws

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vrwmiller asked: Can we expect them to be favorable more to the anti-rights or pro-rights crowd?

Gerald Massengill - Former head of 1st Div VSP - not very 2-A friendly, was against the change from "may issue" to "shall issue" - knew him back when he was just a Sr. Trooper in the 80s

Tom Ridge - Don’t know about him

Gordon Davies -Director for the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia for 20 years (1977-1997) - To my knowledge, no one that was pro-2A has ever served in this council - He and former gov. Doug (one gun a month) Wilder were/are friendly

Roger Depue - FBI and pro-2A are contradictions is terms

Aradhana Sood - Chair of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and Medical Director of the Virginia Treatment Center for Children at VCU Medical Center - Almost no one that heads up any dept. at VCU is 2A friendly, much less someone in the psychiatry field.

Marcus Martin - No better than Sood

Does that answer your question??? I wonder why Kaine even bothered giving any marching orders on gun or ammo control, he already has a stacked deck.

Just my opinion

 

[Scout]

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markand wrote:

Article in Washington Examiner states that Governor Kaine wants the legislature to change Virginia gun laws in response to VA Tech murders. Kaine is not specific about changes he would have legislature make, but states that he is "troubled" that the VA Tech killer was able to "stockpile" a "cache" of 377 rounds of ammo without police knowing about it.

Is he aware this is less than a single bulk box of .22lr (550 rounds) that is commonly sold in a number of department stores?

Does he plan to have the police departments waste all their time recording each and every one of these sales?



What the:cuss: is he thinking?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

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Scout wrote:

What the:cuss: is he thinking?

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(Webster's dictionary) to think:

..........."to subject to the processes of logical thought; .......to exercise the power of judgment, conception or inference.....



It has long been my opinion that the brains of most liberals are "logic-free zones", and Mr. Kaine's breathtakingly moronic musings help illustrate that concept. He is not stupid or uneducated, so I can only assume he lacks the ability to bring facts, logic, reason and common sense to bear on some subject that is freighted with tremendous emotion for him. His irrational anti-gun animus runs so deep, it overwhelms the curcuitry he would otherwise use to "think".

Actually, his bizarre comments might work in our favor. Most Virginians, including those who aren't particularly concerned with gun rights, will likely see his statements as idiotic and impractical. Except for his most loyal toadies, most members of the legislature are probably laughing up their sleeves at him, and will consider any brilliant "ammo control" schemes from him to be dead on arrival.

Speaking of toadies, it will be interesting to see what the press makes of Kaine's cockamamie ideas.
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[Hawkflyer]

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Scout wrote:

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Does he plan to have the police departments waste all their time recording each and every one of these sales?

What the :cuss: is he thinking?

Well he is probably thinking that lot so long ago, all sales of ammo in Virginia WERE RECORDED.

While I can't remember when that stopped, I can tell you that in the 1960's ANY ammo for which a handgun was chambered required a recorded sale. For a while you had to be over 21 to buy it.

Regards

 

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SFDoc wrote:

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Roger Depue - FBI and pro-2A are contradictions is terms
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I don't normally beat people up over cites for assertions made on this forum, but in this case, the statement is so all encompassing and absolute, that I am afraid I will need to see some documentation showing it is factual.

In fact a lot of FBI people are card carrying members of NRA and The Law Enforcement Alliance of America. Both organizations are generally considered to be mildly PRO-2A.

From that one might logically assume that not all FBI people are as you describe. Moreover, a search of the FBI website would provide no evidence for your assumption.

Could you please provide a cite supporting this claim?

Regards

 

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BobCav wrote:

STOCKPILE 377 rounds?

Wait till he hears that I just bought over 1200 rds of .30-06 MILSURP ammo from the US GOVT!! (CMP)

I have every right to purchase bulk surplus at bargain prices when I can and not be subject to the market demands every single time I want to go shooting.

Oh, but then this "tax free" CMP surplus ammo doesn't make any money for the state.....NOW I see what this is all about. TAX REVENUE!!!

What next, limit the number of PENS I can have in my home so I can't write any dissenting speeches against the government? See where this is going?

Trust me, I can do FAR more damage (or good) with my pen than with any firearm.

Oh, gawd Bob, I just feel so threatened by all those pens, and jeeze all those rounds of surplus ammo. LOL I gave Gov. Idiot a call, or his legislative aid a talking to after getting that emergency email from the VCDL.

Stanzi

 

[SFDoc]

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Hawkflyer wrote:

SFDoc wrote:

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Roger Depue - FBI and pro-2A are contradictions is terms
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I don't normally beat people up over cites for assertions made on this forum, but in this case, the statement is so all encompassing and absolute, that I am afraid I will need to see some documentation showing it is factual.

In fact a lot of FBI people are card carrying members of NRA and The Law Enforcement Alliance of America. Both organizations are generally considered to be mildly PRO-2A.

From that one might logically assume that not all FBI people are as you describe. Moreover, a search of the FBI website would provide no evidence for your assumption.

Could you please provide a cite supporting this claim?

Regards

Just my personal opion - what few federal officers (agents) I've meet, none gave me the impression that they were supporters of my right as a civilian to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self-defense.

 

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SFDoc wrote:

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Just my personal opion - what few federal officers (agents) I've meet, none gave me the impression that they were supporters of my right as a civilian to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self-defense. 

I would agree with you that there are a lot of Feds that hold that view, but there are far more of them in other agencies as a percentage.

In any case I was not beating up on you, but I know a LOT of feds that are very pro-rights and fully support the constitution and TSA.

Regards

 

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Hawkflyer wrote:

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In any case I was not beating up on you, but I know a LOT of feds that are very pro-rights and fully support the constitution and TSA.

Regards

No offense taken -I've had limited dealings with FBI,ATF, FPSand DEA. The agents I've metjust haven't impressed me.However, the U S Marshals, Secret Service and OIGon the other hand seem to be top notch agents that would take the time (if they have it) to talkwith you, not at you.