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Free CCW class at Gunstore.

Barker

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My question is, is Eaton even right that you can't discharge firearms out in the county, such as the middle of the ** ****** desert? I began to smell the ******** because otherwise how would hunting permits and stamps be distributed by the state? I can't find anything in the Nevada law that tells me otherwise, but I figured I'd fill you guys in.


This is what I've been going off of for being able to shoot. Hope it helps!

http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo/blm_programs/lvfo_recreation/target_shooting_and.html
 
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Craftymommy

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Do NOT pay them extra for the FL permit application (they charge $50)! There is nothing extra that they need to provide for you to get one. Your NV certification is already good for your FL application if you need one, so make a copy of it before you give it to Metro when applying for NV.

Good to know. He didn't go for Florida for a few different reasons as it is but I will definitely get a copy of his certification before he submits it so in the event he decides he wants Florida then he is ready to go! Thanks:D
 

Steve Larson

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CCW training

I second The Big Guy's sentiment about MAC702. I took my CCW class through him and I felt very informed. Excellent guy to learn from. Sadly, the Sheriff still won't give a Canadian non resident a CCW.
 

Speedywrx

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I would like to share my experience with the Gun Stores "free" class, instructed by Bob Eaton. First and foremost I took the class 1 1/2 years ago so this could be an unfair review considering that perhaps he has changed his teaching style.

Bob made a point to tell us that it is illegal to carry in North Las Vegas and Boulder city without a cfp permit. I raised my hand and asked about Senate Bill 92 which was passed in 2007 which amended the preemption law and removed all grandfathered ordinances except for gun registration therefore making North Las Vegas law illegal. Bob rudely told me that there was no such law passed and then started talking about something else. I avoided a debate in order to not interrupt his class. Later during a break I politely went up to him. I showed him in my phone the law and he basically just ignored it and told me to sit down.

Another important thing to mention which has not been mentioned by anybody else is the following. Bob told us that Nevada does not have a stand your ground law or castle law and that you cannot fire in protection of just your property. He made a point to tell us a bizarre story of a man who lived in a two story house. Someone had broken in so the man ran up stairs to hide with his family while the criminal was going through his things downstairs. Bob said the man was not allowed to fire on the criminal and that when the criminal started going up the stairs the man fired on him. Bob then emphasized that luckily the man got a good lawyer to prove that the valuables of the home were only on the first floor and that by going up the stairs surely the criminal was going after the family. He made it a point to really push to us that we are not allowed to fire on someone for just breaking into our home and that the only reason the man in the story was exonerated is because he got a good lawyer. I then came home and looked up the NRS and found NRS 200.120 which states clearly: a homicide is justifiable in defense of habitation, property or person in defense of someone who by violence or surprise is planning on committing a felony such as burglary against you. So the facts are he was completely wrong and spreading these lies is dangerous and could cause someone to avoid defending their family.

Another interesting thing is that Bob said that unlike most firearms instructors who did not want to be held liable in court he would be happy to answer questions. However he spoke so fast and continuously that nobody was really able to ask anything. Even when people started to ask a question he would just cut them off and talk about something else.

In my opinion from what I saw a year and a half ago Bob Eaton is a very poor instructor and you should get your training somewhere else, even if it means paying.

I got my CCW training at TGS also and was taught about duty to retreat. After reading your post and NRS 200.120, that means that if I'm downtown with my fancy photography equipment on stands and a guy walks up to steal them, I can defend my property with lethal force??
 

MAC702

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I got my CCW training at TGS also and was taught about duty to retreat. After reading your post and NRS 200.120, that means that if I'm downtown with my fancy photography equipment on stands and a guy walks up to steal them, I can defend my property with lethal force??

In a situation like that, you are not defending the property. You are defending yourself from personal violence against someone with unknown intentions. You have no way to know that he simply wants to take your property and leave.

The degree to which you defend yourself will depend on all the details of the situation.

Now, keep in mind that retreating is often a lot less paperwork and aftermath, and is often the best course of action. But we have no duty to do it, which is a good thing because in order to retreat successfully, you must first KNOW that a safe retreat is available, and you may not be able to first take the time to ascertain that is so.

I can't be free, but I am working at getting ready a neutral location where I can do some group classes. I will do some very reasonably for the members here as soon as I get the place organized.
 

28kfps

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With great info in this thread on retreat and not to retreat I would like to add one piece of info. One question and a major factor that always comes up in an investigation of a self-defense issue is did you call 911. God forbid any of us have to use lethal force and odds are we will not however if it does happen call 911. I had one instructor that said if possible try to call before you have to use lethal force. Before or after always call 911. If we end up in front of 12 of our piers and the question comes up did you call 911 a no answer will make a bad day worse.
 

mp06011999

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Old thread revived...

My CCW is due. I can't find another free class on it in Vegas. Looks like The Gun Store is the cheapest at $50 (includes ammo) for the renewal. Since I don't need them to teach me anything and it looks like Bob Eaton is off the list of instructors, that is looking to be my best option.

Anyone know of a free class between Vegas and Pahrump?

Note: I know Mac702 would be the best instruction I could expect. When I need instruction, he'll be the first I'll call. I just need the signature on my tax stamp to carry concealed. I'd like to spend as little as possible to get that.
 
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