Cremator75
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How do you respond to the officer who's first question is "Hello, Any weapons in the vehicle today?"
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How do you respond to the officer who's first question is "Hello, Any weapons in the vehicle today?"
The only time ill inform the officer is if I am ordered to exit the vehicle.
Wouldn't it be safer for everyone just to carry the documents in a place where you don't have to go near your gun to retrieve them?
Since we are only talking about LEOs and being pulled over by one. The safe sure bet is to not even have a gun in a vehicle, bjut then again, that is still not safe. Now to shy away a little, it would be safer if everyone carried either CC or OC. The problem with that is, not everyone does.
I carry my gun on my right side while driving, either that or on the seat next to me when nobody is in the car. Mainly on my side though. Sometimes you will have two LEOs walk up on you, the one on the passenger side is usually a rookie, but not all the time. If the rookie is not familiar with the laws, it could turn ugly real quick. Like I said, I am worried about my safety so I do what I need to do without giving up my rights. I will never GIVE my rights up, sometimes I may choose to wave certain ones. That is my choice and I am the only one that has to answer to my choices. (no intentions to sound defensive or take anything personal).
If something should happen and it gets ugly, I only need to make one call and as long as I am not at fault, my rights will not be violated.
Wrong! As I said, logically he should assume I'm one of the "good guys" and that therefore I am armed! You are swallowing the propaganda, that as Americans we need a piece of paper to exercise our right to keep and bear arms. You also share the assumption that having a gun means you are probably one of the "bad guys". Being a good citizen means you are armed! You need a fundamental shift in your thinking. It's clear that unless I'm engaged in felonious activity I have a right to carry (With one of the unconstitutional permits) and he doesn't need to know I'm armed. I'm no more dangerous being armed than he is!
Not showing a LEO my permit does not mean I don't respect him, as I and others have said, my possession of a permit has nothing to do with the stop!
The red letters is the reason I choose to let them know up front that I am carrying. I do not swallow any propaganda and I do not need a fundamental shift in anything. We all have choices in life and nobody should tell us what choice to make. One can always suggest but again, we have that choice to make.Originally Posted by gogodawgs
Wrong! As I said, logically he should assume I'm one of the "good guys" and that therefore I am armed! You are swallowing the propaganda, that as Americans we need a piece of paper to exercise our right to keep and bear arms. You also share the assumption that having a gun means you are probably one of the "bad guys". Being a good citizen means you are armed! You need a fundamental shift in your thinking. It's clear that unless I'm engaged in felonious activity I have a right to carry (With one of the unconstitutional permits) and he doesn't need to know I'm armed. I'm no more dangerous being armed than he is!
Not showing a LEO my permit does not mean I don't respect him, as I and others have said, my possession of a permit has nothing to do with the stop!
I would suggest you stop assuming and telling others what needs to be done and maybe suggest it to them. If they choose to make his/her own decision, let it be that. I am nobodies sheep, I follow my own path and don't ever get caught up in anyones propaganda.
Heres a question, does anyone have their firearm unholstered in their vehicle in plain site. I keep my firearm in its holster betweent the seat and center console in it's holster. It is in plain site if you look through the drivers window. ( this is when I am in the vehicle ) I put it out of sight when I get out of the vehicle. I only think I would have a delima if an officer were to ask me to get out of the vehicle, I would have to put the firearm out of sight, in which I would have to let the officer in order to comply I would have to put my firearm out of site meaning I would have to handle the firearm. I dont travel with my firearm unholstered. I wonder what would happen if you just had a firearm laying on your passenger seat unholstered when a cop walked up what legal standing he would have, would that warrant alarm or reason to search. What do ya think.
I agree, WSP in Lewis County is pretty relaxed, unless its in Chehalis, then it seems like you get Eff'ed anytime, at least for speeding
don't speed and you won't have to see them.....
Maybe its a corner marker light that burned out, because you know everyone does a walk around of their vehicle before driving on the roadway.
When I am wearing my thigh rig, I unbuckle my rig and sit the gun in the holster on the seat next to me. Either that or between the seat and the middle console. Any LEO would not have RAS, only thing he could ask for is my CPL, but nothing else they could do legally.
I wonder if any of y'all who set your gun on the seat next to you have ever stopped to think about what it's going to do when you have to swerve, brake hard, or get in an unavoidable accident where stuff goes flying around the interior...