david.ross
Regular Member
I spoke with Deputy Chief Brian Allan shortly ago regarding the incident which occurred at the DUI checkpoint along with Open Carry in Sparks, NV.
Conversation was about the following thread:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?84823-one-of-us-open-carry-at-dui-checkpoint
Open Carry
The police department in Sparks, NV knows about open carry and makes a good attempt to make sure they're not infringing on the rights of citizens. There are cases like the DUI checkpoint where the individual who originally made the statements regarding his incident left out details.
The DUI Incident
First off, the guy did _NOT_ file any complaint against the officers at the scene. Deputy Chief Brian Allan is one of the individuals responsible for reading the complaints against police officers. As of the time of the conversation we had, there is no complaint against the police over a fabrication of smelling alcohol.
What was discussed regarding the incident, (say-so from officer at the scene)<strike this>the individual not telling the whole story. The individual made movements towards his firearm which put law enforcement on high alert, triggering a response.</strike this>
I can't urge enough if an individual is having a lawful encounter with the police, to KEEP YOUR HANDS STILL AND NOT MANEUVERING AROUND THE GUN!
We also talked about individuals who believe they don't have to follow state law.
I'm not making any accusations, but the individual appears to be very much like the pastor in Arizona who was UNLAWFULLY tazed by border patrol for not getting out of his car during a LAWFUL checkpoint.
We'll see what happens as a result. I not to enthusiastic since he didn't file a police report yet.
My recommendation if you've a firearm on your hip, at night, and have a lawful encounter:
1) Inform the officer you have a weapon, but don't just say, "I've a gun."
2) Place your hand on your stomach, tuck a thumb in your belt away from the gun, or place your hand around your neck or head. (police would rather have your hand away from the gun(s))
3) If you want to follow the minimal set of required orders by law even if an officer is requesting more, don't be a douche.
Follow-up call:
Deputy Chief Allan was singing a different tune, as if he looked in to the issue further and is now clamming up. Probably after listening to parts of the Youtube video, which he stated to have listened to sections of the video.
Conversation was about the following thread:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?84823-one-of-us-open-carry-at-dui-checkpoint
Open Carry
The police department in Sparks, NV knows about open carry and makes a good attempt to make sure they're not infringing on the rights of citizens. There are cases like the DUI checkpoint where the individual who originally made the statements regarding his incident left out details.
The DUI Incident
First off, the guy did _NOT_ file any complaint against the officers at the scene. Deputy Chief Brian Allan is one of the individuals responsible for reading the complaints against police officers. As of the time of the conversation we had, there is no complaint against the police over a fabrication of smelling alcohol.
What was discussed regarding the incident, (say-so from officer at the scene)<strike this>the individual not telling the whole story. The individual made movements towards his firearm which put law enforcement on high alert, triggering a response.</strike this>
I can't urge enough if an individual is having a lawful encounter with the police, to KEEP YOUR HANDS STILL AND NOT MANEUVERING AROUND THE GUN!
We also talked about individuals who believe they don't have to follow state law.
I'm not making any accusations, but the individual appears to be very much like the pastor in Arizona who was UNLAWFULLY tazed by border patrol for not getting out of his car during a LAWFUL checkpoint.
We'll see what happens as a result. I not to enthusiastic since he didn't file a police report yet.
My recommendation if you've a firearm on your hip, at night, and have a lawful encounter:
1) Inform the officer you have a weapon, but don't just say, "I've a gun."
2) Place your hand on your stomach, tuck a thumb in your belt away from the gun, or place your hand around your neck or head. (police would rather have your hand away from the gun(s))
3) If you want to follow the minimal set of required orders by law even if an officer is requesting more, don't be a douche.
Follow-up call:
Deputy Chief Allan was singing a different tune, as if he looked in to the issue further and is now clamming up. Probably after listening to parts of the Youtube video, which he stated to have listened to sections of the video.
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