Bryco model 38, 380

[RSO1911]

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Hmm, searched "crack" and found these.

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1570

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2568&highlight=crack

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1774&highlight=crack (member cites experience with cracked slides being dangerous)

 

[sv_libertarian]

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So we go from broken slides that fly off and hit people in the forehead to simple cracked slides. Which is it?

Also I notice there is a lot of silence about the mythical slide rails failing now.

Of course a cracked slide is dangerous. That's a given. Any cracked gun part is. But it is still a near impossibility for a slide to come flying off during cycling of the gun.

 

[RSO1911]

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I suppose if the pot metal gave way around the muzzle end of the slide like you said the slide would come flying off.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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Yes if the zinc allow were to give way then you would have a flying slide. However that is dang near impossible, as that is one of the strongest parts of the gun. The design is actually quite safe, and was pioneered by an aeronautical engineer.

When you dig your Bryco out, take a look at it carefully. Also when you tear it down, be careful not to let the take down button and firing pin spring go flying! Not that I've EVER done that.....

 

[sv_libertarian]

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Oh and what about Glocks failing around the breach face?

Looks like any mechanical object can fail given the right circumstances.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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And here is a great Glock failure!

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g19_cracked.html

 

[Mr Saturday Night Special]

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RSO1911 wrote:

Hmm, searched "crack" and found these.

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1570

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2568&highlight=crack

http://www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1774&highlight=crack (member cites experience with cracked slides being dangerous)

I'm not trying to be a gun-snob. There have already been a lot of those on this thread. I'm just trying to demonstrate that I have real life experience.

I've done a lot of research on Bryco pistols.I have yet to find one instance of a slide cracking inhalf and hitting anyone. It just doesn't work that way in real life.

Brycos are made of an alloy called Zamak. A slide/frame made of Zamak will develop a small crack for various reasons...mistakes in the casting, operator abuse... The crack will be self-evident and/or the gun will stop going into battery long before you have a "KB"! It's the beauty of Zamak. It will stretch and bend long before it breaks.

Bryco-Jennings-JimenezArms.com forum has 600 members. Thousands of rounds fired. Not one "KB" to report!

If your cousin's, brother's boss's, girlfriend did get hit in the head by a flying slide I would like to see a picture of it. I know if a gun "KB'ed" on me andI lived, the first thingI would do is take some pictures and call a lawyer!

In short don't BS. We don't need that on this forum.:banghead:

Mr Saturday Night Special

Did you read my post!If you read my post :banghead:you wouldhave read that I wroteabout Zamak streaching. Everything mechanical breaks. The point is that Zamak does not suddenly go KBoom! You have a warning. The gun stops working.

Mr SNS

 

[Mr Saturday Night Special]

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Not one of the post you cite covers a K-BOOM! As a matter of fact all of the posters liked their guns and were/are looking for replacement parts.

Sounds like you want to join the cult. Just breakdown and buy a Jimenez.

MrSNS

 

[RSO1911]

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Zamak (zinc aluminum, magnaium, and copper) might stretch, but it's still got it's faliure point. As far as being the "strongest part of the gun" that doesn't say much for the rest of the gun.

No one said the gun KB'd dude said the slide came off. I could see that happening, you know, inclusions in the casting, stress risers on the muzzle end of the slide casting. Could have just streched untill it let go (the "stretch" absorbing the recoil).

 

[sv_libertarian]

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The point where the slide would have to break in order to come flying off as is so often claimed is the strongest part of the gun, and the part least likely to break off allowing the part to come flying off.

So I don't know what bugs you so much about it.

First it is claimed non existent slide rails break. Then several cracks are waived around. Glock failures are ignored, and then an incoherent babbling about not feeling great about the strongest point of the guns design.

These things were designed by an aeronautical engineer. They know a thing or two about light weight materials under stress, and how to build things of lightweight materials that can handle stress.

That's why if you take the time to actually study and understand the basic Jennings design of guns you'll see the simple genius in the design. He made more money selling guns than making airplane parts. And his guns are still being made today.

 

[RSO1911]

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sv_libertarian wrote:

The point where the slide would have to break in order to come flying off as is so often claimed is the strongest part of the gun, and the part least likely to break off allowing the part to come flying off.

So I don't know what bugs you so much about it.

First it is claimed non existent slide rails break. Then several cracks are waived around. Glock failures are ignored, and then an incoherent babbling about not feeling great about the strongest point of the guns design.

These things were designed by an aeronautical engineer. They know a thing or two about light weight materials under stress, and how to build things of lightweight materials that can handle stress.

That's why if you take the time to actually study and understand the basic Jennings design of guns you'll see the simple genius in the design. He made more money selling guns than making airplane parts. And his guns are still being made today.

Hmm and yet as I read into www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com looking for info on Bryco's I keep coming across stories of critical faliures rendering the guns in-operable.

Maybe not slides flying off, but enough to let me know that unless the stars align and a "good" pistol is found, they are going to batter themselves to death quickly.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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I have not read of a critical failure in a long time. Millions of these things were made, and not all were cared for equally.

Still I have two Jennings designed pistols and both of them are quite functional. And then there is the JA-22 that has lasted nearly 11,000 rounds. I think the failures you are finding are the exception to the rule.

 

[sv_libertarian]

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Yah ever dig out that Bryco you have RSO?