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At least 10 killed in Alabama shooting spree

Task Force 16

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Found this. may clear up some of the misreporting of the event.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7056936&page=1

According to a commenter on the story the shooter used SEMI-auto rifles, not full auto. And, the military photographed in the streets were MP's from nearby Ft Rucker. They were only deployed for one night.

I also read a report (probably from a local media online) that there was one person that tried to stop the shooter by giving chase with his own truck. Damage to the front of his truck suggested that he rammed the shooter in the rear as he pursued the shooter out of town. Unfortunately, the shooter managed to fire rearward and hit his pursuer, who was one of the fatal victems.

I'll search somemore and try to find the report.
 

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ixtow wrote:
Myers, the grieving sheriff's deputy, made an appeal Wednesday to tighten the country's laws on the ownership of automatic weapons.

"As a community, as a family, as a nation, we need to do something about this," he said."

Hard to make them any tighter... Since 1986, Automatic Weapons have been 100% banned from Civilian Production. Period. No Exceptions.

I wonder what a man must be made of to suffer such a loss and immediately use it to further a political agenda.

It's one thing for the media to fail to research the fact. To deliberately lie as they do and to use tragedy of this sort to further their agendas. But for the one left standing to use it the day after his own were killed... Wow. I'm downright impressed by what a piece of human filth he is. That's just damn amazing.

I will give him this, he sure is dedicated to his crusade. Even having his family killed just played into his hand.... f***ing sick.
Cut the guy some slack. He just lost his wife and baby girl.
Dick.
 

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Found the report on the local hero.

http://kdka.com/topstories/alabama.shooting.fatalities.2.958992.html

I found several online stories about this guy,l but the rest barely mention it. This is the one I origingally read and gives plenty of details.

I agree with Rattle snake and Metalchris. Get off the deputy's back. Think about it, he had a job to which he had a duty to serve and PROTECT, yet he couldn't protect his own. His emotional state is totally FUBAR right now, as well as his abiltiy to think logically.
 

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Sarah Brady was not a rabid Anti until John Hinckley turned her husband into a semi-vegetable. What happened to poor Sarah was that the Antis took advantage of her grief and vulnerability and used the cullt technique of "love-bombing" her until she was completely brainwashed. The Antis and their coterie have become her social set and she probably thinks she will be a pariah on BOTH sides if she ever drops the Anti banner.

You can bet the Antis will try and exploit this poor Deputy's grief and try and suck him in as a spokesperson "so that the deaths of his loved ones will not be in vain"

It is not Deputy Myers nor Sarah Brady who deserve scorn, and our venom should be reserved for the jackals who preyed upon Sarah in her hour of need and who are doubtless at this very moment organizing some (gag) "candellight vigil" at which Deputy Myers will be invited to speak. As a LEO Myers will have a particular cachet and they will work him over with every technique the learned from the Moonies and "Guru" Maha raj-Ji.

Let us therefore hope that Deputy Myers sees how these predators are trying to exploit him and this tragedy, and it would not hurt to let him kknow that the thoughts and prayers of all of us are with him, sincerely, and do not depend on what he says about firearms or whether he is for us or not.
 

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http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=45206

Army Investigating How and Why Troops Were Sent Into Alabama Town After Murder Spree
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor
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U.S. Army soldiers from Ft. Rucker patrol the downtown area of Samson, Alabama after a shooting spree March 10, 2009. (Photo: Reuters/Mark Wallheiser. Used by permission. )(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Army has launched an inquiry into how and why active duty troops from Fort Rucker, Ala., came to be placed on the streets of Samson, Ala., during last week's murder spree in that tiny South Alabama community. The use of the troops was a possible violation of federal law.

“On March 10, after a report of an apparent mass murder in Samson, Ala., 22 military police soldiers from Fort Rucker, Ala., along with the provost marshal, were sent to the city of Samson,” Harvey Perritt, spokesman for the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at Fort Monroe, Va., told CNSNews.com on Monday.

“The purpose for sending the military police, the authority for doing so, and what duties they performed is the subject of an ongoing commander’s inquiry--directed by the commanding general of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command, Gen. Martin Dempsey.”

TRADOC is the headquarters command forFt. Rucker.

“In addition to determining the facts, this inquiry will also determine whether law, regulation and policy were followed,” Perritt added. “Until those facts are determined, it would be inappropriate to speculate or comment further.”

Jim Stromenger, a dispatcher at the Samson Police Department, confirmed the MP’s presence in thetown, telling CNSNews.com that the troops “came in to help with traffic control and to secure the crime scene”--and the department was glad for the help.

“We’ve been getting a lot of calls,” Stromenger said. “They weren’t here to police, let me make that clear. They were here to help with traffic and to control the crime scene--so people wouldn’t trample all over (it).”

Stromenger said the town needed help--calls had gone out to all police departments in the area.

“We only have a five-man police department,” he told CNSNews.com. “We had officers from all surrounding areas helping out. There were a lot of streets to be blocked off and there had to be someone physically there to block them off. That’s what these MPs were doing. I don’t think they were even armed. The troops helped keep nosy people away.”

But Stromenger said it wasn’t the Samson Police Department that called for the troops.

“I don’t know who called Fort Rucker. But someone did. They wouldn’t have been able to come if someone hadn’t,” he added.

Under Whose Authority?

The troops were apparently not deployed by the request of Alabama Gov. Bob Riley -- orby the request ofPresident Obama, as required by law.

When contacted by CNSNews.com, the governor’s office could not confirm that the governor had requested help from the Army, and Gov. Riley's spokesman, Todd Stacy, expressed surprise when he was told that troops had been sent to the town.

No request from President Obama, meanwhile,was issued by the White House--or the Defense Department.

Wrongful use of federal troops inside U.S. borders is a violation of several federal laws, including one known as the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878,Title 18, Section 1385 of the U.S. Code.

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both,” the law states.

David Rittgers, legal policy analyst at the Cato Institute, said there are other laws barring use of federal troops outside of federal property, as well.

“Title 18, Section 375 of the U.S. Code is a direct restriction on military personnel, and it basically precludes any member of the army in participating in a ‘search, seizure, arrest or other similar activity, unless participation is otherwise authorized by law,’ “ Rittgers told CNSNews.com.

“The security of a crime scene is something I think that would roll up in the category of a ‘search, seizure or other activity,’” Rittgers added.

In addition, there is the Insurrection Act of 1808, as amended in 2007, (Title 10, Section 331 of the U.S. Code) under which the president can authorize troops “to restore order and enforce the laws of the United States” in an insurrection.

“Whenever there is an insurrection in any State against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into federal service such of the militia of the other States, in the number requested by that State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to suppress the insurrection,” the law states.

In 2007, Congress expanded the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition”as situations for which the president can authorize troops, provided that “domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the state or possession are incapable of maintaining public order.”

Congresshasbeen clear that theuse of U.S. troops for civilian policepurposes is forbidden.

“One of the statutes explicitly says that military brigs can’t even be used to detain domestic criminals,” Rittgers said. “It really is supposed to be a black and white line.”

The U.S. Department of Justice, meanwhile, would have prosecuting authority, if any violation is deemed to have occurred. The Justice Department did not comment for this story.

Ft. Rucker, located in Southern Alabama, is the home of Army Aviation.
 
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