ABraCadabra Store

[ShufflnAlong]

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Also called my dad who was a VA. State Trooper. An ABC store is exempt from property owners rules. It is a state owned piece of property leased or not. It falls under state law not private property laws.

He said a person from an other country could run into a ABC store and ask for political asylum and while not federal they the employees would have to call the feds. and allow the person to stay there since state laws have come under federal regulation due to the fed. laws. with money aproperations (sp) from the feds.

Aren't we glad to have all these federal regulations.

 

[RedKnightt]

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ShufflnAlong wrote:

Also called my dad who was a VA. State Trooper. An ABC store is exempt from property owners rules. It is a state owned piece of property leased or not. It falls under state law not private property laws.

He said a person from an other country could run into a ABC store and ask for political asylum and while not federal they the employees would have to call the feds. and allow the person to stay there since state laws have come under federal regulation due to the fed. laws. with money aproperations (sp) from the feds.

Aren't we glad to have all these federal regulations.

Citation?

 

[Citizen]

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RedKnightt wrote:

ShufflnAlong wrote:

Also called my dad who was a VA. State Trooper. An ABC store is exempt from property owners rules. It is a state owned piece of property leased or not. It falls under state law not private property laws.

He said a person from an other country could run into a ABC store and ask for political asylum and while not federal they the employees would have to call the feds. and allow the person to stay there since state laws have come under federal regulation due to the fed. laws. with money aproperations (sp) from the feds.

Aren't we glad to have all these federal regulations.

Citation?

"Dad" is the citation, such as it is.

 

[Grapeshot]

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Citizen wrote:

"Dad" is the citation, such as it is.

I should say that it is worth what we paid for it.

Yata hey

 

[n2deepjds]

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danbus wrote:

Quite the short and sweet'n'sour experience at the ABC store here in Colonial Heights.

A friend and I went to get some Wild Turkey. While we were discussing who drank the last bottle of tasty beverage, a ABC employee walked up to me and stated "I couldn't have that". My friend thought he was talking about the WT in my hands (lol), but I just confirmed that he was speaking about the firearm. I asked him why and he stated that ABCs don't allow firearms in the store. I then stated to him (not in the nicest most politest way), that Virgina runs ABC therefore making it a public entity and that he could call the cops and that they would come and not be able to do anything. I then continued on to purchase some WT and left.

He made no attempt to call the PD.

LMAO.......i guess you told him!

 

[GWRedDragon]

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PT111 wrote:

Just throwing some junk out there for discussion. If a BG drives up in his car, gets out with his gun on his hip, goes in to buy something the law says that unless the LEO has reasonable suspicion to check him out he can't. So the law says that unless the criminal does something bad while in the store he has the same rights as anyone else even though he is breaking the law by having a gun. According to whatever viewpoint you have this can be good or bad.

I really doubt any BG would 'OC'...if their gun is showing when they walk in it is probably in their hand and pointed at someone.

Just because an officer cannot stop and demand ID does not mean the BG is automatically free and clear. For instance, there is the very real possibility that the officer knows this particular person and knows their record makes it illegal for them to carry. In that case no other cause would be required.

And, of course, if the officer thinks something is fishy they could hang out nearby and keep an eye on things.

From the perspective of the BG, there is no reason to 'show your hand' before the actual robbery begins...it just gives people a chance to prepare.

 

[jegoodin]

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I've OC'd in a number of VA ABCs in numerous occaisions (OK, I have to get a resupply of Bombay Saphire from time to time...) and have never had an issue. As a matter of fact on two occaisions I've had very good discussions with the clerks about OC, CC, and guns in general.

One gentleman was a man of color at the Kingstowne (Franconia/Springfield area) ABC store about 2 years ago. He recognized my G27 as a Glock and we discussed Glocks. He knew about CC and "shall issue", but did not know OC was legal. He said he owns a Ruger 9mm, which I do too. Overall a very good encounter and conversation.