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A sorry state of affairs....

davegran

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I went to the Walworth County Fair yesterday, as I do every year. Thursday was Senior Citizen's Day so I could save a few bucks. Naturally there were seniors there from all over the surrounding area. Some of them were in pretty bad shape. Oxygen tanks. Missing arms or legs. Various skin ailments. Some of the old fellas in wheel chairs had their VFW caps on.... Of course, when they first entered the fair, they saw this:

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And I thought to myself, these wounded old warriors put it all on the line for our freedoms. They left some of their friends and some of themselves in a foreign land to ensure those freedoms. Now some pissant behind a desk decides to take those freedoms away with a stroke of his pen just because he feels like it and because he can.... I wish that every one of their ailments and their wounds could be put on him!
 

protias

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Some people just don't get what freedom means. :cry: :banghead:

Not to mention, if something does happen, the county is going to pay a large sum of money.
 
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thebigsd

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Have they allowed firearms in previous years? If you don't like their policy why give them money? I agree that it is an absolute slap in the face to the veterans.
 

sheller

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I am a senior citizen and a warrior. I have no problems with the fair being posted. I fought for their right to have their choice.
 

rcawdor57

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Let's All Welcome Sheller!

Welcome to the forum. You indicated you fought for freedom. Which war were you in? Hope you attend the open carry events that are planned and posted on this forum. Looking forward to seeing you about!

Carry On...
 

protias

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Welcome to the forum. You indicated you fought for freedom. Which war were you in? Hope you attend the open carry events that are planned and posted on this forum. Looking forward to seeing you about!

Carry On...

Ignore sheller. It is most likely that troll.
 

protias

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Man, one post and he's a troll? Little harsh maybe? I like to give them at least three posts before I label them. He might be a good guy, give him a chance, just one though :D.

After a dozen or so users it has created, it is the same M.O. It is easy to spot.
 

paul@paul-fisher.com

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Man, one post and he's a troll? Little harsh maybe? I like to give them at least three posts before I label them. He might be a good guy, give him a chance, just one though :D.

We have had issues recently where one person keeps signing up and then gets deleted. He sounds like the same guy.
 

BROKENSPROKET

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Not the land. They have parking inside the fence, at least that is my reading of it.

So, it is public property, meaning that the county owns it? If so, that sign is not enforceable. That fair is this weekend? I might come down and try to get arrested.

ETA: Public property, they could not post it last year or this year. They can after 11/1/11 if they qualify as a 'special event'.
 
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paul@paul-fisher.com

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So, it is public land, meaning that the county owns it? If so, that sign is not enforceable. That fair is this weekend? I might come down and try to get arrested.

No it is fairground (private) land. If it were public, you would get a felony because of a GFSZ violation. Surrounded by public schools.

Am I wrong? I thought Act 35 (not in effect today) said that private businesses could NOT stop people from carrying on their land? Or did I misread that? They do have to allow guns in cars at least, right?
 

BROKENSPROKET

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No it is fairground (private) land. If it were public, you would get a felony because of a GFSZ violation. Surrounded by public schools.

In post #6, I asked if was private property and in post #7, you indicated that is wasn't. I'm confused.

Am I wrong? I thought Act 35 (not in effect today) said that private businesses could NOT stop people from carrying on their land? Or did I misread that? They do have to allow guns in cars at least, right?

I have been through 943.13 alot and its is very confusing. I one part is says that they cannot then goes on to say they can. There si a very good 2A attorney up here. I am going to ask him when I take his NRA-PPOH class in 2 weeks.

ETA: We could tear it apart and debate unitl then if you are game.
 
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paul@paul-fisher.com

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In post #6, I asked if was private property and in post #7, you indicated that is wasn't. I'm confused.

I understand your confusion. I was answering 'not the land' to the implied 'they can post' question not the 'is it private property' question.

To be clear, the land is private property. I believe that since they allow parking on it, they can't stop guns at the very least in cars and maybe can only ban guns in the buildings.
 
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sheller

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Welcome to the forum. You indicated you fought for freedom. Which war were you in? Hope you attend the open carry events that are planned and posted on this forum. Looking forward to seeing you about!

Carry On...

I thank you sir. I was in the Viet Nam conflict, 1971-1975 service time. I respect both sides of the issue, I carry but I also respect those who do not and stores that post. I understand it makes things somewhat tougher to carry but it is the law, be it good or bad.

I like the idea of constitutional carry and believe it will happen in the future. And yes I plan on meeting people when I get back in southern Wisconsin this winter. As you say very well, carry on.
 
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