Flash Gordon
Regular Member
what is everyone's opinion of a shall issue permit system vs. a constitutional carry system?
what is everyone's opinion of a shall issue permit system vs. a constitutional carry system?
The only thing standing in the way is those who are telling us, "it can't be done."
As BnH has stated to get Moderately Unrestricted Carry all that has to happen is a repeal of 941.23 but don't hold your breath.
Don't worry, I wont (hold my breath)! I'll continue to work to advance carry rights for all citizens, especially those who refuse to acknowledge/support OC and demand privilege over right.
(Nope, ain't talking about any individual, rather the organizations)
It seems to me that if we would all unite after the elections and contact our lawmakers that we could have a chance at repealing the ccw ban. It will take an army of emails and phone calls to get our message through to them but I believe we are capable of doing just that. Our numbers are large enough, and growing larger every day. If we shout loud enough our voices will be hard to ignore.
We agree here 100%, the question is:
How do we get the "other" state groups on board with REPEAL?
In CT, we have a permit required to purchase and carry a handgun. It is 'shall issue' and is required to carry OC or CC.
It is a mess. Do not concede to a permit system. Dig your feet in and fight for what is right.
It seems to me that if we would all unite after the elections and contact our lawmakers that we could have a chance at repealing the ccw ban. It will take an army of emails and phone calls to get our message through to them but I believe we are capable of doing just that. Our numbers are large enough, and growing larger every day. If we shout loud enough our voices will be hard to ignore.
Hmmmm... I would say "it won't be done", not "it can't be done", but go ahead and be as optimistic as you like. Politicians promise anything and everything to get elected but after the elections its another story.
The term "Constitutional Carry" is an invention of "patriots", Libertarians and far right wingers to make you feel as though the government is short changing you and depriving you of some right. Find me the term "Constitutional Carry" in ANY of the Founding Fathers writings including the Constitution itself and I will eat my hat. It has been left to the states to determine the details of how the second amendment is carried out in that particular state.
As BnH has stated to get Moderately Unrestricted Carry all that has to happen is a repeal of 941.23 but don't hold your breath.
In CT, we have a permit required to purchase and carry a handgun. It is 'shall issue' and is required to carry OC or CC.
It is a mess. Do not concede to a permit system. Dig your feet in and fight for what is right.
Why are you so unwilling to fight for what is right and so unwilling to fight for regaining our constitutionally guaranteed rights?
Maybe you should just go back to hanging out with your buddies at the Joyce foundation and quit trying to sabotage the progress of the WI residents who want the ban on concealed-carry repealed.
I don't know you but I'm pretty sure I've done as much or more than you have for this cause, but we don't have to "regain" anything. Its already ours according to Article 1 Sec 25. All we have to do is get the restrictive statutes modified or repealed.
Dude, I carried in CT for years and had absolutely zero problems in getting and keeping my permit. You will have to define "mess" for me...