Officer shot/killed because he had gun.. what would they do to you?

[SPRINGFIELDMAN-21]

He's an idiot, and I honestly think he should be charged.

+1
If that were you or me they would charge you with it in a heart beat.



The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson

 

[emsjeep]

that they take care of their own, does that mean they will do away with the retired officer somehow too, or will he be rehired?

How do they score this one?

sidestreet

we are not equal, we will never be equal, but we must be relentless.

Active with another department trumps retired from another department. This will be hung on the retired cop. He acted stupidly and shouldn't have interfered, but you can't justify shooting someone because some jerkoff yelled "gun," in the vicinity of an active crime scene with 2 dozen people walking around with guns, in and out of uniform. I also don't know that it has been definitively established that he was wearing a badge or that it was necessarily on the outside or visible.

 

[dcmdon]

The plebians of New York City are essentially forbidden firearms. "Man with a gun" is seen as a life threatening engagement by the NYPD. Anyone approaching the police, armed, MUST be a criminal as the "innocent" New Yorkers could not be armed. Circular thinking with the usual deadly results. All of it approved and sponsored by the politicians and the press working together to repress the rights of citizens.

This is the case with all urban cops.

A friend lives in the sleepy little town of east hadam , CT. He has enough land to shoot legally in his yard.
He was shooting clays with his son one day when a cop came screaming up his driveway and drew his gun. The cop was beligerent. My friend refused to put his gun down and demanded to know what the constable was doing.

The cop said he heard gunshots. My friend said "Yeahs, thats because I'm shooting". My friend mentioned that he was friends with the local resident trooper. The constable scoffed.

So my friend pulled out his cell phone and called the trooper. The trooper told my friend that the new constable was from Hartford and wasn't used to civilians having guns. At that point the trooper asked to speak to the constable. So my friend motioned the constable over and said "Here, your boss wants to talk to you".

After giving back the phone the constable burned out of my friends driveway. Ha. I wish he had a camera.

 

[The Wolfhound]

Specially Priviledged Class

The Cops and your friend too. Priviledges that the rest of us average Joes would not get. That ain't my definition of Liberty. It certainly is not protected RIGHTS. The territory of the North has been largely lost and the battle must be rejoined to bring it back under the banner of Liberty. Keep up the fight. Help wake up your neighbors. We can make things get better or we can lose more. Engage the enemies of Liberty in the war of ideas in public. Make them defend the taking away of rights.

 

[Custom Volusia]

How about instead of trying to figure out things we all have no real information regarding the incident yet and trying turn the cops into a villan...we go with this was a tragic accident that cost a family their loved one, and the cop that pulled the trigger is probably destroyed.

I know we come to this forum to talk about open carry and the incidents surrounding it..but I really think it is too early to try to accuse anyone of anything.

Sorry for the families.

 

[The Wolfhound]

I do not dismiss the tragedy

But I do recognize the mindset that caused it. In a country that respected the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, universally, a man with a gun is not automatically seen as a threat and lethal force is not automatically used against him. The cops were the players in the tragedy not its authors. Gun control is always about people control. The Urban Hive welcomes control. Control destroys Liberty. The death of a Police Officer will at least get reviewed, I doubt that the same would happen with Joe Citizen.

 

[hermannr]

There are two things that I do not understand about this incidence. That the dead officer was not in uniform is not one of them. I can think of 100 reasons an officer might not be in uniform.

First, why was the officer that was shot carring an M4 to a knife problem? That does not compute.

Second, now that the deceased officer did show up with a slung rifle, why was the MTA officer tring to disarm him without even confronting him? That also does not compute?????

I don't care about the retired officer, he really has nothing to do with this except for his mouth. Even with his mouth, he did not tell the others to disarm the approaching visitor, and even if he had told the others to disarm the visitor, they were under no obligation to listen to him.

I think the widow should sue bloomburg personally for unlawful death. IMHO: He is personally responsibile for the culture that created this unfortunate situation. I'll bet the poor MTA officer that shot him will never just shoot again, he may never sleep again.

 

[Makarov]

Another problem with gun control

The problem resides with the lack of law abiding citizens carrying arms openly. See how the cop reacted; he said gun, so he shot the person because he wasn't used to seeing civilians with guns, only uniforms with guns. To him, villains with guns wear street clothes.

We have the problem here in Ohio when a NYC cops becomes a resident here. They think they own the streets. It’s fun to see their reaction when they are charge by citizens for violating their civil liberties.

Wearing a uniform might have helped to prevent this situation. Cops who dress as everybody else on the street will sometimes be treated as anybody else on the street.