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It Was Inevitable...

Eeyore

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the meanest city in the stupidest state
I predicted this the day they announced the Texas abortion law.
For now, PLCAA will negate lawsuits like they want to promote, but how long will the PLCAA last? The Republican party is getting short-term wins at the cost of self-annihilation, so eventually the Democrats will control both houses of Congress and there will be nothing to stop Newsom's plan

All laws like this are horrendous, regardless of what they are intended to prevent, because they outsource enforcement to the mob. Of course it won't be limited to abortion or gun control. Laws like this will be passed for whatever one side or the other doesn't like. The end state will be a copy of China during the Cultural Revolution, or East Germany: everybody watch and report on your family and neighbors and especially people you don't like. Doxing and frivolous lawsuits will become signs of civic virtue threats and fear will be ubiquitous, and the lawyers will get richer.
 

color of law

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"If the most efficient way to keep these devastating weapons off our streets is to add the threat of private lawsuits, we should do just that," Newsom said in the statement.
The SCOTUS upheld the Texas law and allows private citizens to sue. But the burden is set high to obtain standing to sue. The law recognizes the authority of the SCOTUS. IN other words, Texas does not claim Tenth Amendment authority. If the SCOTUS overturns ROE and CASEY then the Tenth Amendment would apply.

That will not happen with the Second Amendment. And the SCOTUS has already said "assault weapons" are common.
 

2a4all

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So a state could enact legislation that bans the carry of firearms in public places (using some version of "terror to the public" premise?), but provides only a civil remedy for a violation via a lawsuit by any private individual who can show harm resulted from a violation (mall beauty shop owner claims business loss due to intimidated clientele?), minimum judgement $10,000.

I suspect that such would have an impact on carry by LACs (criminals not so much), even while court challenges were persued.
 

JTHunter2

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That may be Color, but look at how often ridiculous laws are passed and the damage they do before the courts can remove their illegal or unconstitutional restrictions.
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Punishment by process is very real.

As the old cops use to say you might beat the rap but you well not beat the ride.

For some crimes the public well call for your hanging long before you go to court.

Now day you can not escape the fact that you were charged.

If if one moves far away a simple computer search reveals all.
 

color of law

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As long as qualified immunity exists, beating the ride will be standard operation procedure. Also believing the first complainant needs to stop.
 
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