uh AP...did you miss the previous member's posts regarding the long list of exemptions to those citizens who do not have a mandate to engage in qual/proficiency/whatever in several states, especially the OP's post regarding no guns/ammo.
put the conspiracy theories away...gezzz louise..
there are never live ammo in training classes, cc or basic or instructor classes and most instructors do not want nor allow unknown civilian's personal firearms in their classes!
nra's course mantra
No live ammunition in the classroom!
Did you miss the absence of those who do not have the exemption for a proficiency tests? The list does not exclude every citizen. One shoe does not fit everyone's feet.
Whenever a proficiency test is required it is also required that one use a gun and ammo. Every citizen does not have the same firearm instructor. Every reader does not live in the OP's county. To say no proficiency test is ever required for anyone and no gun and ammo is ever required is misleading the readers.... Some classes require the presentation of gun and ammo in class and one ability to demonstrate familiarity with their function.
In your selective picking among the bones and trying to build your dream animal you cast aside the most important ones.
law.lis.virginia.gov
§ 18.2-308.02. Application for a concealed handgun permit; Virginia resident or domiciliary.
B. The court shall require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun and the applicant may demonstrate such competence by one of the following, but no applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence, nor shall any proof of demonstrated competence expire:
1. Completing any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state;
2. Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;
3. Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, institution of higher education, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services;
4. Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;
5. Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services;
6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;
7. Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or online course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;
8. Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or
9. Completing any other firearms training which the court deems adequate.
A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document that shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this subsection.
law.lis.virginia.gov
Yes Virginia does require a gun proficiency test which requires one to demonstrate their proficiency with gun and ammo. How else will they qualify for the above required firearm proficiency test?
Yes, I realize I posted the URL both before and after the above article; its to help reduce your confusion about the source of the information.
OH! By the way can you provide your source for your post?
there are never live ammo in training classes, cc or basic or instructor classes and most instructors do not want nor allow unknown civilian's personal firearms in their classes!
Is that post according to your personal survey or someone else?