I've mostly stayed out of this until now, but a couple things are bothering me. First off, it appears that many people who are "going off" on MOC are not even MOC members. With all due respect, why should MOC care about what non-members think of their position? If you didn't even care enough to join why should your opinion be given much weight with them? You don't like the bill, fine, but take your complaint to the senate leadership and snyder, it's not like MOC introduced this amendment, they had no say in the matter.
People keep saying "we already have the right to OC in a PFZ", but that is complete BS. One judge has already said it is absurd, and anyone in that county who OC's in a PFZ is taking a MAJOR risk. Waterford and other school districts have already said "go ahead, i dare you". So all of you that say it's legal, I would like to see you go do it in Waterford, and please report back how it goes. Some places don't make a fuss about it, but some do. Maybe some of us don't have the thousands of dollars to fight a charge because the city doesn't agree with the "interpretation" of that loophole. 59 takes a loophole and makes it a law, in black and white. There will be no more risk involved, and for people like me that aren't rich I can much easily afford a $100 advanced CPL class than a $5,000 trial. Do you lose OC in a PFZ loophole, yes, but you gain the black and white law that you can CC there with the enhanced permit. I'd rather have a clear law than a loophole.
Why does everyone seem to think MOC can actually do anything to stop this? It's not like MOC has control over the legislature(if they did more would have been done), they were put in a very bad spot and had to make a tough decision. Going against the bill would have alienated all of the other 2A groups in the state, created hostility towards OC'ers, and guess what, it still would have passed. All MOC would have accomplished is the burning of bridges.
It seems many here have lots of questions that were thoroughly answered at the meeting last night. Unless you were working, what excuse can you possibly have for not logging on and hearing the explanation and Q&A session discussing the bill and MOC's position? If you can't even take the hour to listen to the meeting why should MOC even care what you think? If you actually cared and had legitimate questions you would have attended, because they were all answered.
For those saying why didn't they poll their members, they answered that too. But isn't that why you elected a leadership board, to make decisions? If you don't like the decision they made vote against them next time, that's how it works.
I was pretty neutral on this bill until the meeting last night, afterwards I came away with a new understanding of the circumstances and I have to say I think they made a tough decision, and the right decision. If any of you think they wanted to see OC in a PFZ go away you are delusional, sometimes you do not have the power others believe you have. A vote to not support the bill would have done NOTHING good for OC in MI, and it would not have stopped a damn thing.
There are other important parts to this bill other than the OC/CC PFZ part-
Elimination gun boards
Elimination of months-long waits for CPL
Being able to recoup costs and fees from people who try to deny you your CPL