NC OC experience reports

[solus]

well tried to walk into First Carolina People Credit Union and lo and behold, they have put up a sign on their entrance saying no firearms.

as soon as soon as a make arrangements for a business account with another credit union, i will take my 10K out and close this account down.

plus side...goldsboro's brand spanking new Harris Tetters is A+++ for OC

 

[carolina guy]

well tried to walk into First Carolina People Credit Union and lo and behold, they have put up a sign on their entrance saying no firearms.

as soon as soon as a make arrangements for a business account with another credit union, i will take my 10K out and close this account down.

plus side...goldsboro's brand spanking new Harris Tetters is A+++ for OC

Anyone know how Kroger handles OC? HT is being bought by Kroger and should be changing over soon now that the shareholders have approved the sale.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Anyone know how Kroger handles OC? HT is being bought by Kroger and should be changing over soon now that the shareholders have approved the sale.

HT is keeping their management, so I doubt there will be any changes.

 

[Grapeshot]

Kroger is very good with OC - have never had a negative reaction from their staff.

 

[Jamesm760]

well tried to walk into First Carolina People Credit Union and lo and behold, they have put up a sign on their entrance saying no firearms.

as soon as soon as a make arrangements for a business account with another credit union, i will take my 10K out and close this account down.

plus side...goldsboro's brand spanking new Harris Tetters is A+++ for OC

I thought HT was anti... I had a very bad experience there once.

 

[dmatting]

I've been in many Krogers in the triangle area - mostly in Durham - and have only had positive or neutral experiences. I've carried in HT but we don't shop there much. Food Lion was fine as well - no problems.

I was filling my bike's tank up after work today and another biker was queued up behind me. He saw my pistol and suggested that I might want to "cover that up".
I asked "cover what up?" (as if I didn't know what he meant)
"That thing on your side"
I said. " My pistol? It's an open carry state, brother."
Then got back on my bike and rode off.
I thought it was funny that he was being coy about saying pistol or gun. Like in those Harry Potter movies where everyone was afraid to say Voldemort

 

[stephen92]

tried a new eatting place...huddle house on 117 and was pleasantly suprised to discover nobody cared, staff, other patrons, nada and the french toast platter was very good.

also o'reilly auto parts didn't bat an eye when i went for parts for the scoot.

of course sams and wally world are still on my favorite list.

oh heard about a problem at dunn's wally world...anybody run into problems there?

ipse

What did you hear about? I carry there every time I go and I have yet to have an problems.

 

[ron73440]

I thought HT was anti... I had a very bad experience there once.

I've never had a problem in New Bern's HT, not even a funny look.

 

[Jamesm760]

I've never had a problem in New Bern's HT, not even a funny look.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...Gun-Harris-Teeter-re-posts-no-guns-sign-again
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...-quot-about-open-cary-with-quot-security-quot
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...Gun-Harris-Teeter-re-posts-no-guns-sign-again
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?73076-Harris-Teeter-Posts-No-Guns-Sign


I know those are a bit old but my encounter with them was a little less than a year ago... and there was some weird stuff that happened on mine, and I know I didn't handle it well at all, because I had just started to OC and was not prepared for the situation... But I was told they had a no firearm policy..

 

[MSG Laigaie]

............. She informed me that she had a chp and carried everywhere........

94, this has happened to me on many occasions. I do not understand the need for concealed people to tell me they are carrying a weapon. It's like a secret club. My usual reply to, "I am concealing." is "Not anymore, mate."

 

[roushstang99]

OCed where alcohol was served!

Ok, so went to lunch with my mom today and I was OCing, went to Acropolis Café and Grill in Cornelius and not even thinking about that they served alcohol until I walked in the door. Figured well since I was already in the door let’s give this new law a shot and see what happens (worst that could happen is they ask me to leave right), the hostess was outside as I walked in and saw my firearm.
This is how the conversation went:

Hostess: “Saw you walking in is that a Taser or something or is it real? It kinda freaked me out!”

Me: “No it’s a gun and it’s very real.”

Hostess: “Do you have a concealed carry permit for it?”

Me: “No, I’m open carry and I don’t need a permit to open carry.”

Hostess: “Ok, hold on be right back.”

At this point she went to her manager and could hear her say “customer has a gun but he is open carry, is that ok? Manager “yep he is fine”

Hostess comes back: “How many? Table or both?”

Defiantly not what I expected to happen but I loved it! Got a bunch of looks from people once we were seated! lol
Great food and service!

 

[WalkingWolf]

Ok, so went to lunch with my mom today and I was OCing, went to Acropolis Café and Grill in Cornelius and not even thinking about that they served alcohol until I walked in the door. Figured well since I was already in the door let’s give this new law a shot and see what happens (worst that could happen is they ask me to leave right), the hostess was outside as I walked in and saw my firearm.
This is how the conversation went:

Hostess: “Saw you walking in is that a Taser or something or is it real? It kinda freaked me out!”

Me: “No it’s a gun and it’s very real.”

Hostess: “Do you have a concealed carry permit for it?”

Me: “No, I’m open carry and I don’t need a permit to open carry.”

Hostess: “Ok, hold on be right back.”

At this point she went to her manager and could hear her say “customer has a gun but he is open carry, is that ok? Manager “yep he is fine”

Hostess comes back: “How many? Table or both?”

Defiantly not what I expected to happen but I loved it! Got a bunch of looks from people once we were seated! lol
Great food and service!

Outstanding not only did management support you, but one more citizen got educated. I hardly ever get approached, but then I am so ugly nobody looks at me long enough to notice the gun.

 

[nobama]

I thought the new law was only for CC holders? which it is, so does somebody get a pass with permission? If not, you were breaking the law, but if the manager or owner give you permission is it OK?

 

[roushstang99]

I thought the new law was only for CC holders? which it is, so does somebody get a pass with permission? If not, you were breaking the law, but if the manager or owner give you permission is it OK?

To me the law is still a little unclear. I took a chance that I probably shouldn't have as my wife told me a customer could have called the police and could of had an issue maybe. But I did have permission!!!

 

[WalkingWolf]

I thought the new law was only for CC holders? which it is, so does somebody get a pass with permission? If not, you were breaking the law, but if the manager or owner give you permission is it OK?

IMO he got permission so he was legal. IMO the law is intended only for CC, at least until there is a test case.

 

[carolina guy]

IMO he got permission so he was legal. IMO the law is intended only for CC, at least until there is a test case.

+1

The way I read it, if you have a CHP, you can OC where they serve alcohol w/o permission, but only as long as they do not have a "conspicuous" gun buster sign, or you are told "no". Since he was told "yes", this bypasses most of the stupidly written law as long as there was some sort of "event" taking place.

§ 14-269.3. Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry any gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission thereto, or into any establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

(b) This section shall not apply to the following:
(1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14-269;(2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;
(3) A person participating in the event, if he is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; and
(4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event.
(5) A person carrying a handgun if the person has a valid concealed handgun permit issued in accordance with Article 54B of this Chapter, has a concealed handgun permit considered valid under G.S. 14-415.24, or is exempt from obtaining a permit pursuant to G.S. 14-415.25. This subdivision shall not be construed to permit a person to carry a handgun on any premises where the person in legal possession or control of the premises has posted a conspicuous notice prohibiting the carrying of a concealed handgun on the premises in accordance with G.S. 14-415.11(c)."

 

[solus]

+1

The way I read it, if you have a CHP, you can OC where they serve alcohol w/o permission, but only as long as they do not have a "conspicuous" gun buster sign, or you are told "no". Since he was told "yes", this bypasses most of the stupidly written law as long as there was some sort of "event" taking place.

i am uncertain how you made this leap of faith based on your apparent lay person's interpretation of the 14-259.3 cite you posted.

IMO this is especially irresponsible based on the legal uncertainties of these recent statute changes and the legal issues it might expose forum readers to from possibly overzealous judical officials.

'sides, wasn't this same discussion subject sidelined on another NC thread?

and IANA and looking forward to going back to read about NC folk's OC experiences.

ipse

 

[carolina guy]

i am uncertain how you made this leap of faith based on your apparent lay person's interpretation of the 14-259.3 cite you posted.

IMO this is especially irresponsible based on the legal uncertainties of these recent statute changes and the legal issues it might expose forum readers to from possibly overzealous judical officials.

'sides, wasn't this same discussion subject sidelined on another NC thread?

and IANA and looking forward to going back to read about NC folk's OC experiences.

ipse

(*shrug*) No leaps of faith, just reading the law as written (citing my references) and making my own comments. Feel free to do the same and tell me how you think I am incorrect. FWIW, the law as written is marginally unclear when it comes to the "events" portion since the manager might NOT be able to give permission the way the law is written.

Ultimately, if you feel that this topic is somehow verboten, please feel free to ping a moderator for further action.

BTW: OC'ed on and off around Concord yesterday and Saturday. Mostly Food Lion, Lowes and Home Depot...no problems, no comments and not sure that anyone really noticed other than my wife and kids.

 

[papa bear]

I actually CC'ed the other day because me & my grand children spent the day in a city park, and the shorts/belt i had on worked with a concealed better anyway. i had more comments of "where is your gun", then i have as a OC. :lol:

CAROLINA GUY, where did you get the law that you posted. when i look it up there is none of the provision of the CHP. could you tell me the source

if this is the official word. then it looks like OC is allowed if you have a CHP. please don't be offended, i just want to see the law myself.

 

[carolina guy]

I actually CC'ed the other day because me & my grand children spent the day in a city park, and the shorts/belt i had on worked with a concealed better anyway. i had more comments of "where is your gun", then i have as a OC. :lol:

CAROLINA GUY, where did you get the law that you posted. when i look it up there is none of the provision of the CHP. could you tell me the source

if this is the official word. then it looks like OC is allowed if you have a CHP. please don't be offended, i just want to see the law myself.

NP...the changes do the law that went into effect on Oct 1st can be found here:

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H937v6.html

with the relevant portion:

SECTION 3. G.S. 14‑269.3(b) reads as rewritten:
"(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269;G.S. 14‑269.
(2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;establishment.
(3) A person participating in the event, if he the person is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; andevent.
(4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event.
(5)A person carrying a handgun if the person has a valid concealed handgun permit issued in accordance with Article 54B of this Chapter, has a concealed handgun permit considered valid under G.S. 14‑415.24, or is exempt from obtaining a permit pursuant to G.S. 14‑415.25. This subdivision shall not be construed to permit a person to carry a handgun on any premises where the person in legal possession or control of the premises has posted a conspicuous notice prohibiting the carrying of a concealed handgun on the premises in accordance with G.S. 14‑415.11(c)."

The state still shows this outdated version on the main links http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-269.3.html:

§ 14-269.3. Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry any gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission thereto, or into any establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

(b) This section shall not apply to the following:
(1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14-269;
(2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;
(3) A person participating in the event, if he is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; and
(4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event.
[FONT=Times New (W1)](1977, c. 1016, s. 1; 1981, c. 412, s. 4, c. 747, s. 66; 1993, c. 539, s. 165; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)[/FONT]

Not offended even slightly. I would NEVER take someone's word online without at least being able to verify with something authoritative.