How long does it take to get a pistol permit in CT

[Rich B]

That officer lied to you. Don't take legal advice from LEOs.

We are not 'shall issue', by the way.

 

[boatdoc]

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thanks for the info Rich

I think this is th e new line passed on by the LEO @MPD--if you read some of the older posts on this thread--they used to blame the chief for delays and I have heard he is anti gun permit anyway( stories in the news provided that info--he is pissed off at the board of examiners for over turning his rulings...) and I am sure that got back to them so now it is the"guy in hartford" story.

I will persist that is for sure

also I have read several times(not posts but somewhere in the states laws that we are a shall issue state-- meaning that unless you have a felony record, was a past felon or have on of the other reasons they list @ the state site--they must issue a permit to you--period

I may be wrong but hope I am not-- if this is subjective not objective--it could be real hard to just get the permit I have rights to:dude:

 

[Rich B]

also I have read several times(not posts but somewhere in the states laws that we are a shall issue state-- meaning that unless you have a felony record, was a past felon or have on of the other reasons they list @ the state site--they must issue a permit to you--period

This is not the case at all. We have misdemeanor disqualifiers and a suitability clause.

 

[boatdoc]

update

in an odd twist, I spoke to a MIlford LEO in my neighborhood and discussed the "guy in Hartford" scenario his reply said it all-- the MPD has only ONE person assigned to permit applications. He did 90 just last month alone-- no resources= long waits-- sadly this is Milfords rep for any kind of permitting and for actions taken for decades--absurd rules, lack of workers = long waits and rules made by control freaks( applications taken ONLY tues ,thr 1-3pm)

so the LEO who told us it would take 3-4 months is the same person who is overwhelmed -- thus the shear numbers created a back up o f epic proportions and there is no real way around it--he 's actually a real nice guy and I do not want to make his life miserable--so the 100 day wait goes on

 

[Rich B]

********. Not your problem. They are legally obligated to deal with the issue.

It takes no time at all to mail fingerprints and cards, and then issue the temp permit when it comes in. He could clear the backlog in a few hours if he wanted to.

You are getting played like a violin. Every town makes the same excuses, but when pushed, are able to issue right away - no surprise.

 

[davidmcbeth]

so the LEO who told us it would take 3-4 months is the same person who is overwhelmed -- thus the shear numbers created a back up o f epic proportions and there is no real way around it--he 's actually a real nice guy and I do not want to make his life miserable--so the 100 day wait goes on

There is a way around it -- assign more resources. There's no law saying that the PD has to do this work...only the town. They could hire $10/hr workers to do this if they wanted to.

The law is unconcerned with their issues because they can resolve issues if they want.

29-28(a) includes:

(b) The local authority shall, not later than eight weeks after a sufficient application for a temporary state permit has been made, inform the applicant that such applicant’s request for a temporary state permit has been approved or denied. The local authority shall forward a copy of the application indicating approval or denial of the temporary state permit to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection.

It does not say "police department" ... I think "local authority" = town or city

 

[blkbeard]

Waterbury

My wife and I both applied for our pistol permits on Tues May 13,2014 in Waterbury Ct. The clerk stated that it would be a 5 to 6 month wait. when and how should we file an appeal? Any help will be appreciated.

 

[Rich B]

My wife and I both applied for our pistol permits on Tues May 13,2014 in Waterbury Ct. The clerk stated that it would be a 5 to 6 month wait. when and how should we file an appeal? Any help will be appreciated.

Most like you were administratively denied somewhere inside of the first month.

How to appeal:

http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/cwp/view.asp?a=1252&Q=254192&bfpeNav=|

 

[ValleyView67]

Waterbury

My wife and I both applied for our pistol permits on Tues May 13,2014 in Waterbury Ct. The clerk stated that it would be a 5 to 6 month wait. when and how should we file an appeal? Any help will be appreciated.

Here's what I don't understand. The current backlog for appeals has them booking approximately 2 years out and that's the first move that you want to make? Wouldn't you be better served by waiting the 8 weeks as mandated by statute and then placing a polite call to the Chief and asking what the reason for the delay is? Rich is no doubt extremely well informed on this issue but I still don't quite get the logic behind immediately going to "Defcon 1" when your communication has been limited to a "clerk" at the WPD. Does filing an appeal really make them move any faster or does it just create a record of their delay and in the end you "get your permit when they get to it"? Good luck.

 

[davidmcbeth]

Here's what I don't understand. The current backlog for appeals has them booking approximately 2 years out and that's the first move that you want to make? Wouldn't you be better served by waiting the 8 weeks as mandated by statute and then placing a polite call to the Chief and asking what the reason for the delay is? Rich is no doubt extremely well informed on this issue but I still don't quite get the logic behind immediately going to "Defcon 1" when your communication has been limited to a "clerk" at the WPD. Does filing an appeal really make them move any faster or does it just create a record of their delay and in the end you "get your permit when they get to it"? Good luck.

Your view is that once you file an appeal that they will either stop working on it (for whatever reason) and wait for the appeal to be heard in 2 years.

The issue I see with this is that they, BFPE, are violating your right to keep and bear arms and to maintain proficiency with the handgun(s). The Army requires range time every 6 months; the 2 year time frame is outside of this.

Perhaps before next legislative session efforts to mandate that the BPFE must issue final decisions w/i 6 months of the appeal being filed will happen.

There was a court case that said that 24 months is just fine .. hence the BFPE's current 2 yr wait period. Its not a coincidence.

Alas, I don't believe that the state can require any type of permission slip.

 

[ValleyView67]

Your view is that once you file an appeal that they will either stop working on it (for whatever reason) and wait for the appeal to be heard in 2 years.

The issue I see with this is that they, BFPE, are violating your right to keep and bear arms and to maintain proficiency with the handgun(s). The Army requires range time every 6 months; the 2 year time frame is outside of this.

Perhaps before next legislative session efforts to mandate that the BPFE must issue final decisions w/i 6 months of the appeal being filed will happen.

There was a court case that said that 24 months is just fine .. hence the BFPE's current 2 yr wait period. Its not a coincidence.

Alas, I don't believe that the state can require any type of permission slip.

Actually I believe they would continue to work on it so what's the point of the appeal based on a clerk's statement? Again my question, is there any proof that the appeal will make the issuing authority speed up the process OR can it have the opposite effect and cause them to say "thanks for the appeal after only one week of waiting, you'll hear from us in a year" (well before the appeal date). It seems like this maneuver just compounds the problem of an already outrageous backlog for the bfpe and steams everyone's clams in the process. Again, why not just place a call to the Chief at the appropriate time and work from there? Thanks.

 

[davidmcbeth]

Actually I believe they would continue to work on it so what's the point of the appeal based on a clerk's statement? Again my question, is there any proof that the appeal will make the issuing authority speed up the process OR can it have the opposite effect and cause them to say "thanks for the appeal after only one week of waiting, you'll hear from us in a year" (well before the appeal date). It seems like this maneuver just compounds the problem of an already outrageous backlog for the bfpe and steams everyone's clams in the process. Again, why not just place a call to the Chief at the appropriate time and work from there? Thanks.

? Proof? No. I don't think that there is proof and you cannot get the evidence to support a claim either as these BFPE records are secret records regarding permit holders.

Makes it kinda hard to check.

 

[Rich B]

Here's what I don't understand. The current backlog for appeals has them booking approximately 2 years out and that's the first move that you want to make? Wouldn't you be better served by waiting the 8 weeks as mandated by statute and then placing a polite call to the Chief and asking what the reason for the delay is? Rich is no doubt extremely well informed on this issue but I still don't quite get the logic behind immediately going to "Defcon 1" when your communication has been limited to a "clerk" at the WPD. Does filing an appeal really make them move any faster or does it just create a record of their delay and in the end you "get your permit when they get to it"? Good luck.

Except their burden is not 8 weeks. Why would you give that advice?

 

[ValleyView67]

Except their burden is not 8 weeks. Why would you give that advice?

I didn't give any advice. If you noticed there were question marks throughout my posts and the questions were born out of the reality that there is seemingly no entity that enforces any of the lawful time limits on the permit process so it would seem logical and in ones self interest to approach the issuing authority with a measure of tact. If filing an appeal after submitting an application one week earlier has proven to be an effective strategy in the past and motivates the issuing authority to stick to a strict timeline then I guess it's all good.

 

[Rich B]

I didn't give any advice. If you noticed there were question marks throughout my posts and the questions were born out of the reality that there is seemingly no entity that enforces any of the lawful time limits on the permit process so it would seem logical and in ones self interest to approach the issuing authority with a measure of tact. If filing an appeal after submitting an application one week earlier has proven to be an effective strategy in the past and motivates the issuing authority to stick to a strict timeline then I guess it's all good.

Waiting an extra six weeks to try and save time sure seems illogical.

 

[boatdoc]

update

Hi

I am posting this to help others--it decreases the anxiety felt waiting for a permit(for whatever your reasons)-- not to get trashed by those who feel they must

I applied for my permit on 3 -6 14. Was told then it would be 3-3.5 months. did nothing about the wait(no calls, no visit to the MPD...). Spoke with MPD officer who investigates the permits 5-28-14-- he told me'" you are up in typing now,then you go to the chiefs desk to be signed.. you should have "it" in 2-3 weeks" so 3-4 months is the norm now. The appeals board has a 2 YEAR back up-- and someone I know--who is very much "in the know" about our state and its laws said that permits are now allowed to take 4 months--FYI

best of luck to thos e still waiting:monkey:banana::lol:

good shooting

rob

 

[snatale42]

Minus the knee jerk crap after Newtown, CT was pretty descent with permits. You'll probably be fine.

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[davidmcbeth]

Hi

I am posting this to help others--it decreases the anxiety felt waiting for a permit(for whatever your reasons)-- not to get trashed by those who feel they must

I applied for my permit on 3 -6 14. Was told then it would be 3-3.5 months. did nothing about the wait(no calls, no visit to the MPD...). Spoke with MPD officer who investigates the permits 5-28-14-- he told me'" you are up in typing now,then you go to the chiefs desk to be signed.. you should have "it" in 2-3 weeks" so 3-4 months is the norm now. The appeals board has a 2 YEAR back up-- and someone I know--who is very much "in the know" about our state and its laws said that permits are now allowed to take 4 months--FYI

best of luck to thos e still waiting:monkey:banana::lol:

good shooting

rob

While waiting for your permit, just OC a rifle ... no permit needed for that ... walk around the tourist places and when stopped by the local law makers just tell them once you get your permit you'll discontinue OCing the big bad rifle ... permit next day?

 

[Rich B]

Was told then it would be 3-3.5 months. did nothing about the wait(no calls, no visit to the MPD...). Spoke with MPD officer who investigates the permits 5-28-14-- he told me'" you are up in typing now,then you go to the chiefs desk to be signed.. you should have "it" in 2-3 weeks" so 3-4 months is the norm now. The appeals board has a 2 YEAR back up-- and someone I know--who is very much "in the know" about our state and its laws said that permits are now allowed to take 4 months--FYI

This is what every LEO tells every applicant. It is a great example of why you should never take legal advice from a LEO.

And it is all wrong.

 

[boatdoc]

cant resist huh?

Typical that the KNOw it alls above( the ones with the strong opinions) -- have to trash others

MY friend is NOT LEO --he is in the know--becaus e he has friends who are leo--staties,know mayors,chief of police depts in his area of CT(I live in Milford and he stated what I already knew --3-4 mo--period!!!).... and the rules from Hartford are now leaning toward 4 months--period

all the stammering and carrying on will not change that--the governments are taking advantage of their power and position--

Milford in particular is very cheap--IF (as David Mcbeth once stated) they would pay for mor e help for the leo who does the applications by himself in Milford..maybe then things would work faster--but then the Chief has to sign faster--not gonna happen

so you may be technically correct about what the laws say--but those of you who trash others here-- can any of you prove that all the fuss gets you a permit faster? DOUBT IT

and these towns and cities KNOW that the appeals board is 2 years backed up--thus they have power and we do not

thanks for being so considerate--NOT!!