How do you justify OC?

[firefighter]

I was reading some of these post and one thing in my state that I rather OC is cause when you CC here and accidently let it be seen by your shirt lifting up or anything like that you get a ticket. I think that some BS, but it's just another way they can control ya. And I agree with it being a determent, I want people to see me OC hoping I can get more people in my area to exercise their right as well. I have only been question once and told I was wrong in OC without a permit but it was just from a store clerk. I hope everyone has a good Easter weekend.

 

[eye95]

If OC is legal where you live, how can "flashing" give you a ticket? Unless it is against the law to only partially expose the gun, or unless the law requires you to conceal when you have a license?

I don't get it.

 

[cmr287]

I OC because it is easier to get to you weapon should something happen and you need to draw.... In a tight situation, seconds could possible the meaning of life or death. By this I mean if you are in need and you are fumbeling with a shirt or jacket, you or the one you trying to protect could be the one harmed and possibly killed....
I dont take a chance!

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[firefighter]

If OC is legal where you live, how can "flashing" give you a ticket? Unless it is against the law to only partially expose the gun, or unless the law requires you to conceal when you have a license?

I don't get it.[/QUOTE



It is legal to OC in Missouri, it legal to CC with permit, but the way the law reads you can not have a gun partly concealed and by this law you weapon has to be fully visable or fully concealed. It can't show though your clothes, and if concealed and cop sees it for a second before you conceal it again (which is accidental showing) you came get a ticket. I don't like it but something we have to live with. But I prefer to OC anyway cause like they said before it hopefully makes the BG stay away.

 

[shastadude17]

how do you justify oc?

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[websterz]

Oooookay...that is disturbing as HELL right there!

 

[Reasonable]

Cause I don't get attention without it.

 

[KYKevin]

I always see these what if someone asked this or that questions. My answer is not to answer. Just walk away. People now a days in this information age seem to think every thing is their business and they have a right to an answer when they ask a question. Truth is they don't. And I am not obliged to give an answer if I don't want too nor do I owe them an answer. Let them figure it out.

Sure they may get upset, mad or angry. But that is a personal issue they need to resolve for them selves or with help from a mental health professional. It is not my job and I can't do it for them.

So how do I justify oc? I don't! I just oc.

 

[WCEarp]

I was reading some of these post and one thing in my state that I rather OC is cause when you CC here and accidently let it be seen by your shirt lifting up or anything like that you get a ticket.

I'll try and clean this up a little. Missouri can be confusing because each city can regulate OC as it pleases. Until the last legislative session, if you exposed your cc gun in a city that banned OC you could get ticketed. The state now has preemption over both CC and temporary exposure of such. Right now we are trying to get an OC preemption bill out of the state senate.

If you have ever done a cross country trip and checked each state you went through for OC laws then you have an idea of what it is like in MO.

 

[MikeTheGreek]

Crime Deterrent. Comfort. & I get to carry my full size CZ 75B!

I tried an IWB for that thing for a few days...damn near killed my spine. Never again.

Plus...I kinda like the funny looks I get from old people.

 

[OC for ME]

<snip> It is legal to OC in Missouri, it legal to CC with permit, but the way the law reads you can not have a gun partly concealed and by this law you weapon has to be fully visable or fully concealed. It can't show though your clothes, and if concealed and cop sees it for a second before you conceal it again (which is accidental showing) you came get a ticket. I don't like it but something we have to live with. But I prefer to OC anyway cause like they said before it hopefully makes the BG stay away.

Uh.....that is not exactly correct.

Open display of firearm permitted, when.

571.037. Any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement, and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, may briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self defense.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000037.HTM

Also, there is no "printing" standard/statute in the RSMo. Printing does not justify a ticket nor a investigation for that matter. Virtually every cop in MO knows this.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Uh.....that is not exactly correct.

Also, there is no "printing" standard/statute in the RSMo. Printing does not justify a ticket nor a investigation for that matter. Virtually every cop in MO knows this.

Really?

Your first two sentences there are fine, but that third one...

Open carry has been legal in Ohio since it became a state. There are a lot of cops in Ohio that do not yet know this.

 

[OC for ME]

Really?

Your first two sentences there are fine, but that third one...

Open carry has been legal in Ohio since it became a state. There are a lot of cops in Ohio that do not yet know this.

I can not and do not speak for OH. Here in MO this small addition to our "gun laws" was a relatively big deal prior to passage. I have yet to meet a cop who does not know this aspect of the law. No, I do not know all cops, but I do ask, when I converse with a cop, if his fellow officers are aware of this law and the answer has, in every instance, been yes. I suspect that the yes answer has more validity the smaller the department. Also, any individual cop knowing that aspect of the law and that individual cop following the law may be two separate issues.

 

[MSG Laigaie]

.......there is no "need " to justify OC. It is the legal default carry condition.......

YES! I spent this last weekend sitting at a gunshow table touting OCDO. This was my argument. Open Carry is the default method of carry in Washington State, no permit needed. If you want to do something special, like hide your weapon, then you need permission. But OC is the default method of carry.

It must be my area (central Ohio) but I rarely if ever encounter the Preachy Anti at all.

I am in Bellingham, Washington, the City of Subdued Excitement. All those hippies from the sixty's retired here. For those young people who may not know what a hippie is, google is your friend. Most of them are still marching for something/anything and weapons make them afraid.

 

[Jamesm760]

Because it's to hot for a cover garment
Pants don't fit with a IWB holster
I'm lazy
It's my right
All the cool kids are doing it.

+1

Thats same response I give to people that question me.

 

[markand]

How do you "justify" open carry?

A right that we're afraid to exercise because it makes people uncomfortable, or because some feel it is tactically unsound, or for whatever reason, is a right we've willingly given up and LOST. I, for one, am not going to go quietly into the night giving up one right after another. I'm increasingly of the opinion that gun owners NEED to open carry from time to time, just because we can, while we still can. I'm happy for the opportunity to graciously answer questions from the curious and endure the verbal barbs and arrows from the irrational anti-gun wing.

Not that many decades ago, a few people decided it was important to endure sometimes angry reactions when they sat at the front of the bus, sat at the "wrong" lunch counter, or drank from the "wrong" water fountain. Now its our turn. No further "justification" is required.

 

[tazxrulz]

I open carry because it is the only way to legally carry in my state (Maine). I don't want to give the state any more money than I have too. If it were legal I'd probably conceal carry in businesses and stuff and open carry outside.

 

[Jordysoso]

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy and because it's my right as a law abiding citizen

 

[MNMGoneShooting]

Why justify? I don't have to justify walking my dog, playing baseball or writing a letter to politicians.

 

[sdnet]

I OC because I'd prefer not to have to draw and/or use my weapon, ever, in a self defense situation.